More Telluride Mismanagement

Even if the strike hadn't taken place, how much of the mountain could they have opened with the poor snowfall to date?

Similar to how Aspen, Crested Butte, and Purgatory are doing. Not great. Likely 40-50% open on a 20-inch base. Doubt they would only open the catwalks up in Prospect Bowl.

The front face snowmaking trails need at least a 25-inch base and more likely 30 inches. Telluride can open almost all the terrain off of Chair 9-Plunge and Chair 6-Apex with about 35 inches, and quite well with a 40-inch base. Chair 14-Gold Hill requires a lot more snow to cover wind-blown rocks - closer to 60 inches.

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What is interesting is how much snow there is at elevation from the storms that did manage to reach the San Juans.

Telluride Helitrax (the heliski operation since 1982) started at Christmas and has been skiing great terrain at 11-13k ft around Telluride.

They ski both north of town (Sneffels Range) and south of the ski area (Lizard Head/Mt. Wilson).

I have not skied with them yet. Basically, I can find great in-bounds skiing or side/backcountry skiing (4k vertical ft runs in Bear Creek just east of the ski area) that I never felt the need to spend $ or campaign for or use goodwill for a local's discount.

My brother has been many times, since he barters with the owners. They need things from him.

The terrain served is not extreme due to the sketchy San Juan snowpack, but it is in beautiful country at high altitudes with outstanding snow preservation.

Specifically, I want to ski the bowls above Telluride Town (north), and fly over it. And maybe ski the north side of the Sneffels that overlook Ralph Lauren's huge ranch.




 
Not surprised at the fallout. And also not surprised that this seems that it will go on longer than most strikes:
Saw that.

Yes, the Telluride Ski Patrol needs to realize they have no real leverage against a deranged, mean-spirited, narcissistic, wealthy owner who does not care and can afford to lose $1M+ per day. This is similar to how Donald Trump treated contractors - basically won every single time because you can outlast things. It's hardball business tactics. It's perhaps morally wrong, but Telluride is not a public company where you can apply pressure through multiple channels. There is no real pathway or strategy to success.

Yes, SkiPatrol deserves a raise, and they deal with some of the steepest terrain and the most unstable snowpack in the USA. But they have been given a significant raise However, Ski Patrol has been a bit inflexible in its demand to get to $29/hr versus the current $27/hr offer.

I have grown tired of the online support groups for the Telluride Ski Patrol being led by and full of West Coasters who are not part of the Telluride Community in the least (outside of maybe visiting one for Bluegrass). It's all Portlandia, rent-controlled Berkeley types, maybe some Colorado Western Slopers - and almost every hippie/leftist in a West Coast town who wants to "Fight The Power!" Most constructive comments/posters are quickly cancelled/censored.

At the Town of Telluride/Mountain Village meetings yesterday, many people testified/cried for ski patrol. A lot of politicians were like: Give me an f-ing break. You are out to lunch. Reality please!

Some businesses are closing - some permanently. Many seasonal workers have fled. They want to ski for a winter, not be broke in some mountain town with picket lines. Most businesses gave everything 2 weeks to get sorted out. (Park City lasted 12 days). Telski Ski Company will start laying people off this weekend without any resolution. My brother will likely do mass layoffs this weekend.

I am very happy to report that Telluride Ski Patrol is not raising much money via GoFundMe and is falling well short of its $360k goal. They are not even 50% there. This is less than $1.5k per patroller for the last 2 weeks; can't live on that! I do not want to enable their behavior and picket lines.

Essentially, Telluride Ski Patrol is done; they made their point, they got a 25%+ raise, but they need to be cognizant of the community and live in reality. They have no power and no endgame to prevail, except community self-destruction. I cannot support them or this path forward.

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And let's compare to the Vail Resorts agreement with the Park City Ski Patrol:

After the Park City ski patrol strike at Park City Mountain Resort (owned by Vail Resorts) ended in early January 2025, the new labor contract included higher wages for ski patrollers as part of the settlement:
Pay rates agreed after the strike:
  • Starting rate for entry-level ski patrollers: $23 per hour (up from about $21) — a $2/hr increase.
  • Experienced ski patrollers: received larger raises, with an average increase of about $4/hr compared with pre-strike pay. Some senior patrollers saw their wage go up by about $7.75/hr.
  • That means most patrol workers ended up earning in the low-to-mid-$20s per hour, with the highest increases going to the most tenured staff under the new contract.


Again, I cannot support either Chuck Horning or the Telluride Ski Patrol. I am done with both of them.

And yes, I speak with Gaham Hoffman, Head of Telluride Ski Patrol, and even rode the chairlift with him last winter/February 2025. Asked all about controlling and opening the Gold Hill Chutes. Great guy!
 
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Again, the Ski Patrol counts 78 employees.

There are almost 20,000 other people in Telluride, including locals, seasonal employees, and visitors.

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This is going to be a challenging one for people to keep track of. Its not like labor issues show up on the snow report or weather forecast. So far, other than Tellurides ongoing saga, I haven’t seen any sites predicting upcoming labor issues. However it could certainly destroy a ski trip far worse than suboptimal snow conditions.
 
After less than a week back in operation, Telluide has opened the following with 59 inches of snow to date and a 29-inch snow base. Similar to what I predicted below.

Note: Telluide should not classify all of its hike-to terrain as normal trails. More like zones with named areas. This deflates trails / ski terrain open for most of the season.

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Similar to how Aspen, Crested Butte, and Purgatory are doing. Not great. Likely 40-50% open on a 20-inch base. Doubt they would only open the catwalks up in Prospect Bowl.

The front face snowmaking trails need at least a 25-inch base and more likely 30 inches. Telluride can open almost all the terrain off of Chair 9-Plunge and Chair 6-Apex with about 35 inches, and quite well with a 40-inch base. Chair 14-Gold Hill requires a lot more snow to cover wind-blown rocks - closer to 60 inches.

With a bit of snow in the last week (10") and a 29-inch snow base, Telluride was able to open Chair 9-Plunge and Chair 6-Apex at nearly 90%+. Pospect Bowl-Chair12 opened with a few expert hike-to's (they get tremendous blow-in snow).

What surprises me is that almost 100% of Chair 14 - Gold Hill is open. That has to be very rocky!

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Telluride cannot do anything right. :(:mad::eek: The town makes proposed and passed Bay Area legislation look reasonable, like:
  • paying the homeless a living wage in the 2000s (General Assistance Cash $400/mo) and building a (tent) city in Golden Gate Park (Gavin Newsom ended this)
  • proposal requiring restaurants, cafes, bars, and grocery stores to sell only brewed coffee made from beans that are Fair Trade, organic, or shade-grown
  • passed - no styrofoam and only compostable take-out food packaging

The latest insanity (see Colorado Sun news articles at the bottom), and some nuggets:

Two of the most powerful elected leaders in San Miguel County flew out to California to visit Telluride ski resort owner Chuck Horning in the last week of December and offered him a deal. Meehan Fee, the mayor pro-tem of Telluride, and Marti Prohaska (ski patroller), the mayor of Mountain Village (now resigned :eek: :(:cautious:), were not representing town governments when they corralled a group of investors willing to pay Horning $127.5 million for 51% ownership of Telluride Ski and Golf in a deal that would give control of the resort to a board of community-focused investors.

The deal appeared to be on track until a proposed sales contract was posted on social media late Tuesday, and the resort owner filed open records requests, indicating the resort was not for sale
  • Neither Prohaska, who grew up in the valley and works as a ski patroller, nor Fee gave their councils advance warning about the trip to visit Horning.
  • Offer estimates Telluride resort’s annual earnings at nearly $20M
  • THE BEST: Both women think the pressure of the patrol strike — as well as evidence of declining visitation and fewer destination tourists after Horning eliminated the resorts’ marketing budget — weighed on that pivot.
  • Leaked "Offer to Buy" Link
  • Horning, who is 81, told them he has health issues that prevent him from returning to Telluride due to the high altitude.
  • Fee told The Sun on Wednesday that she and Prohaska went to Newport Beach as private citizens, not elected officials and they did not inform their councils of the Dec. 27-30 visit. They vehemently denied that their effort was connected to the ski patrol strike.
Summary

Two senior local officials from Telluride and Mountain Village privately assembled investors and offered ski resort owner Chuck Horning $127.5 million for a 51% stake in Telluride Ski and Golf, a deal that would shift operational control to a community-focused board. The proposal aimed to end years of tension between Horning and the towns and to stabilize the local economy after a damaging ski patrol strike and declining visitation.

The mayors—acting as private citizens, not on behalf of their councils—say Horning initially engaged, sought a slightly higher price, and showed flexibility by helping end the patrol strike. The offer valued the resort at roughly 13× EBITDA, estimating annual earnings near $19–20 million, with Horning retaining 29% ownership and a longtime partner 20%.

Momentum stalled after the draft contract leaked on social media, fueling conspiracy theories that officials were leveraging the strike to force a sale. Horning’s representatives then filed public-records requests and stated the ski area is not for sale. The officials deny any coordination with the strike, say they made no governmental promises, and argue distrust and misinformation derailed talks. As of publication, Horning had not publicly responded, and the deal appears off the table.


2 Telluride, Mountain Village leaders pitch Chuck Horning a $127.5 million, investor-backed offer for 51% of the ski area


Mountain Village mayor resigns in wake of offer to buy Telluride ski area from owner Chuck Horning
 
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Two of the most powerful elected leaders in San Miguel County
While the trip and discussions were probably a pretty dumb idea, I'm not sure that there is actually much 'power' that these two held. All the town entities seem pretty fractured in recent years, meaning just like the non existent GM/leadership of the resort itself, these two also had very little real power in the grand scheme of things IMO.

Horning, who is 81, told them he has health issues that prevent him from returning to Telluride due to the high altitude.
This is the most important information by far to come out of this most recent mess. No more worries about fist fights and Chuck trying to sleep with every female in town... And one has to wonder how much longer he'll even have the possibility of control/ownership. At least the owner of Eldora who was starting to have health issues decided the hassle factor for his preferred antagonistic ownership style was getting to be too much and finally sold. One can only hope the same realization comes to Chuck sooner than later.
 
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