Patchs?? where are you

We actually are on a push across Maine. I've got a guy in eastern Maine to handle Big Rock, Squaw, Camden, etc., plus Saddleback and SR. Sugarloaf and Shawnee are both still reasonably current, and the aforementioned piece on Abram is in the can. <BR> <BR>To answer another question, the ASSQ (Association des Stations de Ski du Québec) reports that Adstock has no website. Sure enough, http://www.mont-adstock.com is for the country club, not the ski area.
 
I knew that the Adstock ski area didn't have a website, but I am hoping that Frank might have something cause I had this debate with Frank last year regardless the "extremity" of the place. That not what I remember, however the run we had the GS one and the pitch was pretty steep.
 
There does not seem to be alot online about Mt Adstock, I am about 99% sure that this is the next <BR>area that I will visit next season in Quebec from Sugarloaf. Mont Gleason also lookes reasonably close to Mount Adstock, but the area is not listed in The White Book, or any other guide that I have. In reference to Maine, If you are missing any by next winter let me know. Eaton looks close by and family friendly. I would like to Contribute somewhere, I do live in Southeastern N.Y so there are alot of places close by here also, that are not online at the present time.
 
If you go to the following website: <BR> <BR>www.maneige.com <BR> <BR>This is the Quebec Association Of Ski Areas. <BR>You can find Mt Adstock in the dropdown table, and there is an arial picture of the mountain. I did not see a trail map, but the picture does tell alot about what to expect from this place. <BR>Curiously enough, Mt Orignal and La Crapaudiere are listed together at the same website: <BR> <BR>www.montorignal.com <BR> <BR>Are these two areas owned by the same people? <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/clipart/your_image.gif" ALT="1,trailmap of Mt orignal"> <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/clipart/your_image.gif" ALT="2,trailmap of La Crapaudiere">
 
Thanks for all the info guys, I may check out stowe or stratton if I do I'll let you know how it was.
 
I'll try those maps again: <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3985.jpg" ALT="La Crapaudiere"> <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3986.jpg" ALT="Mt Orignal">
 
Hey Luke: <BR> <BR>Did you see the picture of Stratton from May17th at onthesnow.com. The mountain looked quite snowy still. <BR> <BR>Good Luck
 
I was not really sure where exactly to post this, since it is a second hand ski report, but here are pictures from Timberline Lodge. These pictures are from Sunday May 23rd 2004: <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3987.jpg" ALT="Magic Mile Chairlift And Mt Hood"> <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3988.jpg" ALT="Timberline Lodge">
 
According to my brother the conditions were heavy wet snow with 6" new and temperatures around 32F. The Palmer Chair did not operate due to bad weather. The base depth at the lodge was 123"
 
Holy cow, <BR> <BR>I missed a lot of things here since yesterday ! <BR> <BR>Ok, first, the Crapaudière is still operating. We visited it, last may 9 and there was still some big patches of snowmaking. The resort has been bought by Mt Orignal and it's why you can access to both websites by the website of Mt Orignal... or the one of the Crapaudière. <BR> <BR>La Crapaudiere is a very long mountain, but not steep, so it might be long to climb on top with the fixed grip quad. <BR> <BR>Here is a pic from the mountain I took last may 9 from the road. It's an incredibly nice-looking ski hill. <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3990.jpg" ALT="Crapaudière"> <BR> <BR>And here is the incredibly steep trail of the 2nd side of the mountain. Note that there is a high-speed 6 seats chair on the main side (I think it was the first in America, one year before Boyne Highlands in Michigan...(but not 100% sure)) <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3991.jpg" ALT="Steep liftline at Orignal"> <BR> <BR>Mont Gleason is a very smaller ski area. It's only 600' high and it's very familial. Not sure you would have a lot of pleasure there, although your son would probably have some <IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR> <BR>Here is a photo of the mountain : <BR>(notice that there was no snow around the mountain, as the pic is from the bad snow year 2001-02) <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3992.jpg" ALT="Mont Gleason"> <BR> <BR>Mont Adstock, it's incredibly tough to get some informations or pics about this mountain. Some of my friends went there 2 years ago and they told me that there was some trails looking similar to the incredible double blacks of La Réserve. <BR> <BR>I seriously hope to ski the mountain next year. <BR> <BR>Here is what I can give you as pics and trail map (don't laugh too much please !) <BR> <BR>the trail map (with 2 guys on it... I know... lol) <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3993.jpg" ALT="Trail map Adstock"> <BR> <BR>And an aerial pic of the mountain. Notice the steepness of the trails on left, especially the one most on left, which is named "Adstock's challenge" (translated). I always heard that this one was completely crazy ! (but after have heard many times that the #4 of Mt Édouard was a tough trail, I'm more sceptical these days) <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3994.jpg" ALT="Left trails Mt Adstock"> <BR> <BR>On another subject, thanks for the pics of Timberline Lodge, it's incredibly nice to see that !!! <BR> <BR>Anyway, the very 1st choice coming from Sugarloaf remain the Massif du Sud !
 
I went for a hike up to the summit of Mt. Washington today, and took some photos of Tucks, both from Hojo's and from Lion Head, and I thought I'd share them with you (since they're really depressing, of course). Here they are: <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3995.jpg" ALT="lionhead"> <BR>This one is from Lion Head <BR> <BR><IMG SRC="http://www.firsttracksonline.com/discus2/messages/8/3996.jpg" ALT="hojos"> <BR>This is from Hojos.... <BR> <BR>-Sven
 
Thanks for the picts, Sven. The remaining snow could be easily mistaken for June 27 most years, rather than May 27. I have reliably counted on skiing Tucks on Memorial Day weekend for years, but it's not looking good for 2004. If it turns out to be nice weather for a hike, I may do it anyway.
 
You give "depressing" a whole new meaning... ouch !!!! It looks like it melted a lot in the last week. My prediction (on TFT) of July 4 for the last snow possible to see on the webcam will probably be too late ! (last year, the last snow seen was on august 6)
 
Frank, thank you for the information on all those ski areas. I think that we will visit Mt Adstock, as it looks closer to Sugarloaf than Massif Du Sud and the vertical of 1029' is decent. How far we can go depends on the weather and road conditions, as most of the area roads are one lane. <BR>Just getting to the Canadian frontier takes 1 hour from Sugarloaf, so I have to be realistic(especially trying to stay sane with a 5 year old in the car)
 
1029' is the old vertical... since they put the quad in the late 80s, it's over 1100' by the way. <BR> <BR>I guess the Massif du Sud is something like 1 hour farther (or slightly less), but it would worth 5 hours more drive, IMO. <BR> <BR>Anyway, for the roads to Mt Adstock : with the road 161 and 112 in Canada, you should be ok. Those roads should be enough plowed, especially the 112 which is a more major road. I think you have an access road of something like 15 minutes to reach it, but I'm not sure, It's one of the only ski areas I've never seen of my own eyes in the southern part of the province.
 
The 1029' vertical is from the 2000 White Book, but perhaps they have not updated the information. <BR>The worst part of the drive into Canada is route 27 to Coburn Gore, its like driving on a one lane roller coaster. Getting to Orford took us 3 1/2 hours last January, and that was partly on Autoroute 10. The good thing about the drive is that most of the roads in southeastern Quebec do not weave and twist around high mountains like they have to in western Maine. If I get there before you do, I will of course take many pictures and post a report.
 
But that Route 27 is a beautiful drive, but you have to careful not to hit any moose. <BR> <BR>Regarding the Autoroute, you would definetely be far from using it if you are going to Adstock from the Loaf.
 
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