PeakRankings: Trips

It's a hockey stick if you extend the axis.

Almost 0% AMS until maybe 5-8k, then some rapid increase, and near 100% by 20k or so.

It might look different for the Nepalese population, or even a Colorado-only population.


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Didn't know what to expect exactly, just that almost exactly linear was not it.
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Strictly anecdotal, but it seems a lot of people have the reactions at 12,000 that I do. I don't think it;s coincidental that the the more responsible expeditions on Kilimanjaro ascend gradually to 12,000, then spend another day or two hiking laterally at that elevation before ascending further.
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Symptom onset is usually 2–12 hours after initial arrival at a high altitude or after ascent to a higher elevation
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I recall from 1980-1983 I would drive from home to the 7,700 foot Poopout Hill trailhead, put skis on a backpack and hike to over 11,000 feet on San Gorgonio. The hike took about 7 hours. Then I would ski down ~2,500 vertical in 45 minutes and hike an hour back to the car. If I got any headache it would be after I got down to the car. The peculiar symptom is that I would run a fever of 100F that evening but then be fine (if still tired) the next morning. I recall when Adam had the nausea after the July 2011 climb above Tioga Pass, I consulted CWHappyRN and she instructed me to visit Adam bringing electrolytes and take him to emergency in any of the 3 following scenarios:
1) Continued vomiting, inability to keep water/electrolytes down; that calls for IV hydration.
2) Fever over 100F. It seems that fever up to 100F is a natural defense mechanism to many stresses upon your body. Over 100F is a sign your body is not in full control of the situation.
3) She wanted me to talk to Adam and have him describe his day in detail. Incoherence, confusion, etc. is a sign to seek immediate medical attention.

With regard to that hockey stick, I think I've read somewhere that the human body cannot acclimatize fully beyond 18,000 feet no matter gradually you get there.
 
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Well, they are skiing Telluride (Hiking focused expert terrain) and Silverton (with heli this week). See trip description in opening post of this thread..


Telluride - Zero hiking. Wet slides and low snow bases.

Silverton. - Poor Snow. No powder. Why would you spend money on 1 or 2 days of heli to ski in mashed potatoes and bare spots??


They should have cut losses and rolled anything over into 2026/27. It's that bad and disappointing.
 
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Silverton announced their closing March 28th (via email, website still says unguided goes to April 12th). No clue if theyre doing anything for this years season passholders, but presumably anyone who booked the March 29th “add-on” day for this trip is getting a credit or rollover.
 
While this trip was mostly scheduled properly, it's mostly a lesson of sunk costs.

What could you even get credit for? Airplane tickets, etc.
Savings from not spending money - food, car rentals, etc

Again, you are not really experiencing Telluride or Silverton (maybe a 3/10 conditions and terrain). Too much money being pissed away - especially on heli-skiing.




Some issues with the Late March timing of the trip:

Silverton - Should always have a start or reservation date of Thursday! You will have from Sun PM to Thurs AM for new snow potential. Also, hikes will be shortened/less time consuming for easy pickings. (Unless you are scheduling last minute). Also, Silverton's terrain mostly faces east or west, and north to a lesser extent. Late March sun is a bit strong, especially down low.

Telluride - Gold Hill west terrain can get a bit impacted. Gold Hill chutes are higher and narrow and have much better preservation. Palmyra - always great snow preservation. Bear Creek - Backcountry/side country - snow is generally safer in March as layers bond/consolidate. Wet slides can be an issues after 12noon.
 
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