Snow Ridge Powder Pigout 3/1/08 (with pix)

Sharon

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It's been a good week for snow in upstate NY. As an Alberta Clipper was making it's way to the northeast, plans were forming to take advantage of the bounty in the northcountry.

I rescued Dave, a full-time Greek Peak ski patroller from that molehill and we went to another molehill, only the molehill we went to is in the direct snowbelt off the leeward side of Lake Ontario in the Tug Hill where it drops off into the Black River valley. The piles of snow along the road from Rome to Snow Ridge were impressive. We pulled in to the parking lot around 9:30 to find a bunch of snowmobilers as well as a hoards of children in racing duds. One child put on quite a performance that reeked of spoiled brat while we booted up in the sunshine. There was a Kandahar race going on, which brought in people from all over, but overall there weren't really a whole lotta people at this sleeper mountain and most were there for the race or to snowmobile. There were no lift lines on a sunny Saturday after a few dumps of snow. Where were the powder hounds? The hill was not all that impressive from it's front face which made me quite skeptical and wondering why we didn't go right to Gore where there is a whole lot more vertical, plenty of tree skiing and a fresh foot of new snow. We purchased our $33 lift tickets and headed up on the lift to see what this place is all about.

With a bit of a traverse from the top, we dropped into a beautiful low-angle glade that suddenly dropped into some of the steepest pitches I have ever seen in New York. Not only was it super steep, it was in the trees, and sometimes tight trees. We dropped off the steep face into a ravine, crossed the creek and went back up for more. On the second run in this area we scoped out some of the steepest chutes. The first one looked a bit too tight for my likes, so we traversed a bit to the next one. It too was steeper than anything I had ever skied in NY and it was tight, but I could see the line and thought I could nail the turns necessary to get through the steepest section. Dave encouraged me to go for it. There certainly was enough snow, untracked. So I dropped in, and with one turn the snow slid completely off the face. I was getting carried down by the slough and worked right to get out of the way of the slide. I lodged myself into a submerged tree out of the fallout zone. The pitch was still greater than 45 degrees and I was holding onto the tree so as not to tumble or slide the rest of the way down into the trees below. I had one ski under the tree. I somehow managed to get my ski out while hanging onto a branch and was able to ski away from the slide zone. Close call. I looked up at the chute and all that was left was leaves, dirt and rocks. Dave took a different line.

As we were skiing out of the ravine to the lift we inspected the other side of the ravine. It had seen not a single set of tracks. Up the Little Hill lift we went to access the goods. The lines were plentiful and the pitch was steep, though not as steep as the chutes on the other side of the ravine. We tracked up as much as we could before lunch, and there was still plenty leftover.

For lunch we avoided the hoards of brats in the lodge and tailgated in the sunshine, beer chillin in the snowbank. Suddenly our sunshine was gone and it was puking snow and we were getting our parkas on. In 20 minutes there was a half-inch of new snow accumulated on my skis that were laying flat next to my car. The sun came out again and we headed over to the t-bar which is the furthest south side of the ski area.

We skied off to the left and then into the woods. There were a few tracks in these woods, but not many. We found our own fresh lines in this short shot. We rode the catapulting t-bar up and took the same trail south and came to a freshly made bootpack up a logging road. We decided to take it and enjoy a few more feet of vert. This was definitely a worthwhile hike, not just for the increased vert, but many more fresh lines became open to us the further up and out we went. The glades were much lower angle than what we had skied in the morning, but the snow was deep and fresh. We came out on the road and walked back to the ski area. Back at the t-bar we met up with a telemarker from Syracuse who was heading the same way. He was happy to be with a group, because skiing alone beyond piste is not a good idea. I was just amazed at the lack of powderhounds in this powder paradise.

The three of us did the traverse, passing a ski patroller who didn't seem to mind us being out there. We never had to duck any ropes. It seemed that it was open for us to enjoy. So we hiked up even further. We came upon a sign that said "Caution Ice Ahead". We never did find that ice. Each time we'd have to walk further back on the road to the t-bar, though during one of our walks a Snow Ridge operations guy in a pick-up stopped and offered us a ride which we were happy to accept, even though it was not that far. By the end of the day my shins and toes were sore from all the walking and boot packing we did that day.

Snow Ridge gets up to 375" of snow per year and were reporting a base of 57". Essentially it was bottomless in this very good snow year. There was no crusty base anywhere to be found. It was just soft and deep snow. It got a little creamier and heavier later in the day, but the low-angle glades we skied in the afternoon were simply divine. What the resort doesn't have in vertical, it makes up for in side-country woods. steeps, and acres of fresh deep snow. The runs were short, but they were super sweet. It was a lift-served backcountry experience, or call it side-country, but it seemed like it was our own. I couldn't understand why there were not many others taking advantage of this bounty.

On our way to the next destination we drove through blinding snow on Route 28 through Old Forge and beyond for about 30 miles. We thought about checking out McCauley Mtn, since it was puking there, but we had a plan that we decided to stick with.

Here are my pix. http://tinyurl.com/ysfd95
 
There were a few others there. That was our boot pack. You seemed to find a few of the best spots. You want to ski some even steeper chutes...go farther left than where you were back by the creek. There is a rope to drop into one of them
 
I don't think steeper chutes are really a good idea considering that the chute I skied slid. There was literally no snow left on the top face where I made my first turn. The 2nd turn was impossible with the sliding snow and I new I needed to get away from the slough. We figured that anything that steep is probably unstable. My friend said that it slid the week prior as well. I really didn't expect that.

Well, I'm glad to know it was you who was skiing there. We really didn't see too many powder hounds out there, except for our first few runs in the ravine.

Why doesn't anyone ski the other side of the ravine...serviced by the Little Hill lift? It was totally sweet and it was all ours.

Thanks for the boot pack. Dave was wondering if you were the dude he followed the week prior up that same track. If you look at my pix you'll see if you recognize him from last week
 
Sounds great. Who'd guess that a place with such little reported vert has steep shots like that.
 
Wow, you set off an avy at Snow Ridge! Glad you were OK. I think the real powderhounds head for the real jewel of the area...Woods Valley in Rome. :) Snow Ridge really gets hammered with snow. I'm surprised it slid down to dirt. The snowpack must be really deep in Turin. I never skied McCauley but my mom used to ski there in the 1940's I always wondered what it was like.
 
Sharon":1le3pzqc said:
I don't think steeper chutes are really a good idea considering that the chute I skied slid. There was literally no snow left on the top face where I made my first turn. The 2nd turn was impossible with the sliding snow and I new I needed to get away from the slough. We figured that anything that steep is probably unstable. My friend said that it slide the week prior as well. I really didn't expect that.
We set off a few that ran pretty good also. We've had a couple burials back there.....not this year


Sharon":1le3pzqc said:
Why doesn't anyone ski the other side of the ravine...serviced by the Little Hill lift? It was totally sweet and it was all ours.

We usually save that for the last runs of the day. Didn't need it Saturday. We tracked up the ravines until about noon then moved over to that stuff off the t-bar until the end of the day

Sharon":1le3pzqc said:
Thanks for the boot pack. Dave was wondering if you were the dude he followed the week prior up that same track. If you look at my pix you'll see if you recognize him from last week

I recognize the tall guy in black
 
Sharon":2bwsz69t said:
If you look at my pix you'll see if you recognize him from last week

I do recognize the pics from North Creek.....that tree you need to duck under. Too bad they ruined that area by clear cutting a bunch blue trails.

I heard they are cracking down on the OB stuff up there due some bonehead ski instructer taking someone out off the top Chatiemac glade and getting lost. I was told they have signs up about this. You see any of this?
 
I heard they are cracking down on the OB stuff up there due some bonehead ski instructer taking someone out off the top Chatiemac glade and getting lost. I was told they have signs up about this. You see any of this?

Indeed this is true, though I did not see any signs, though I heard there is a sign on the trail out to Grim Reaper/Highline. Besides that incident I heard that they had to do search and rescue every day during President's week. So the shit really hit the fan that week.

The ski patrol director told me that we should not post about our off-the map exploits on the forums anymore (which is why I didn't describe my Sunday afternoon in detail). He was pissed off when Grim Reaper was named "favorite trail" by someone in a magazine or forum. Management is on his ass about it. So yeah, they are cracking down. He warned me, so I was cautious Sunday, though I did sneak off when no one was looking :wink: I cannot post all of my actual whereabouts in my trip reports anymore, and I had to ditch my yellow jacket for a black one.

For insurance reasons and a NY State Law that says that every trail or glade needs to be well-marked, inspected before and after the ski day, they cannot open up the whole mountain to the general skiing public. In VT they don't have such a law, so you can ski just about anywhere at MRG and Jay. Though the skier's responsibility code says that skiers must not ski on closed trails, so if a rope is up it is still illegal to duck it no matter where you are...and that is for your own safety 99% of the time.

And the tall guy in my SR pix was just a telemarker we met while we were there...too bad we didn't run into you.
 
I understand the caution of the ski patrol and ski area, but it makes me kind of sad. When I do duck rope or go out-of-bounds, I make sure that it's not obvious. Sometime you see people just asking of it. I also don't publicize it openly on ski forum so everyone (from the responsible to the irresponsible folks to see and try). Don't mind sharing, but not online.
 
Sharon":3js0s5iz said:
I Besides that incident I heard that they had to do search and rescue every day during President's week. So the [censored] really hit the fan that week.

Where were all these people getting lost? It's really kind of hard to do there
 
Where were all these people getting lost? It's really kind of hard to do there

At Gore Mtn, it isn't hard to do at all. Everything off the backside of the summit is at least a 3-4 mile hike to the nearest road. It isn't an easy hike either and if you don't have a map or a compass on a gray day you might not be able to tell which way you are going. There are some flat areas and lots of stream crossings. It isn't a walk in the park, I can attest to that. It took us about 4 hours to get out and we knew which way we needed to go and we were energized, had supplies and gear and weren't lost. WIthout those things, it could be very demoralizing.
 
Sharon":3iizn7c5 said:
Where were all these people getting lost? It's really kind of hard to do there

At Gore Mtn, it isn't hard to do at all. Everything off the backside of the summit is at least a 3-4 mile hike to the nearest road. It isn't an easy hike either and if you don't have a map or a compass on a gray day you might not be able to tell which way you are going. There are some flat areas and lots of stream crossings. It isn't a walk in the park, I can attest to that. It took us about 4 hours to get out and we knew which way we needed to go and we were energized, had supplies and gear and weren't lost. WIthout those things, it could be very demoralizing.

I would consider that hard to do. There aren't any trails that lead in that direction where if you ventured off them you would be in trouble. The only way to go off the back is with some kind of plan.
 
we didn't take any trails...we bushwhacked the whole way

so, if you go off Chatiemac and turn right in the woods, you can easily get lost if you aren't prepared
 
Sharon":37az7q9r said:
we didn't take any trails...we bushwhacked the whole way

so, if you go off Chatiemac and turn right in the woods, you can easily get lost if you aren't prepared

exactly....unless you knew something about where you were going over there.....those trees do not look appealing
 
Sharon - sounds like a great weekend. Nice to see Snow Ridge for the first time in photos, and always great to see the NCBC. One thing about cliff huckers...the best ones just know how to GO WITH IT. Your buddy is either top shelf or really lucky or maybe both.

What I heard about the signs on the Chatiemac side...an employee of the mountain took a friend OB from that side and either needed rescue or was very public about the incident. (Not too sure about that last part - heard two versions on that.) It is too bad as even lines that could never get you lost...that drain back into Tannery...are now marked OB.
 
Your buddy is either top shelf or really lucky or maybe both.

Definitely both!

He is top shelf for sure, but he was very lucky as well. He seriously didn't see the cliff until it was too late, but being top shelf as he is, he was able to make a decent landing.
 
That thing is definately hard to spot and usually too late if you have any speed and aren't expecting it. It's really not a good one to hit due to the flat landing. Glad he made it alright. It was marked somewhat.
 
That thing is definately hard to spot and usually too late if you have any speed and aren't expecting it. It's really not a good one to hit due to the flat landing. Glad he made it alright. It was marked somewhat.

besides flat landing, there's a huge boulder at the bottom. He was lucky. We saw the faded pink ribbons after the fact (looking up from the bottom). I alerted someone who might go back in there to put up some easier to distinguish ribbons.
 
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