So Eden Utah is the new Davos?

3 questions for me: Will PBR remain on tap? Will the amazing night skiing deal remain? Will the resort continue to operate w/o snowmaking?

I agree that it could have been much worse.
 
Marc_C":uwaq8nni said:
powerlumina77":uwaq8nni said:
Will PBR remain on tap?
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Hope not. That stuff is reprocessed piss. It's why people hate hipsters.
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Yeah, Die Hipsters!!!... and poor people!

In all seriousness I can't think of a person less affected by hipsters than Marc_C.
 
rfarren":2mcbmmph said:
In all seriousness I can't think of a person less affected by hipsters than Marc_C.
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I spent Thanksgiving weekend in Vegas. They're unavoidable, as are the amateurs.

The problem with hipsters in ski base lodges is that eventually you hear a conversation (on the off chance that the group has finally stopped playing with their magic texting boxes) that starts with "Yo bra!* You really shredded the gnar, dude!" and immediately devolves into a spray-fest.

*: Apparently these guys find it easier to address each other by an article of clothing they're wearing instead of their name.

Alas, *I* may have come off as a hipster that Friday in Vegas, for I was wearing this t-shirt:
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...and a guy stopped me while walking thru the casino and asked where I got it. Rush was playing the MGM Grand that night. It makes sense if you saw the Snakes and Arrows tour/photos/DVD.....
 
Maybe hipsters are different in UT but the whole "bro brah" thing doesn't really fit my definition of hipster. Come out here and check out Silver Lake/Los Feliz or head to Brooklyn and I don't think you'll see much in common with the bro brah crowd you mention.
 
socal":5oaca0ln said:
Maybe hipsters are different in UT but the whole "bro brah" thing doesn't really fit my definition of hipster. Come out here and check out Silver Lake/Los Feliz or head to Brooklyn and I don't think you'll see much in common with the bro brah crowd you mention.
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Basically I agree. I only used "hipster" to denote PBR consumers, as it seems to be the swill of choice. Many hipsters ingest PBR, but doing so does not necessarily make one a hipster.
 
Marc_C":2udm8fqt said:
socal":2udm8fqt said:
Maybe hipsters are different in UT but the whole "bro brah" thing doesn't really fit my definition of hipster. Come out here and check out Silver Lake/Los Feliz or head to Brooklyn and I don't think you'll see much in common with the bro brah crowd you mention.
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Basically I agree. I only used "hipster" to denote PBR consumers, as it seems to be the swill of choice. Many hipsters ingest PBR, but doing so does not necessarily make one a hipster.
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Again, maybe that's a Utah hipster. My definition of a hipster wouldn't touch PBR, they'd drink some local micro brew with a "beautiful" label. I think you're thinking of "bohemian" types, kinda what I see a lot of in Venice Beach.
 
socal":160lgmy9 said:
Marc_C":160lgmy9 said:
socal":160lgmy9 said:
Maybe hipsters are different in UT but the whole "bro brah" thing doesn't really fit my definition of hipster. Come out here and check out Silver Lake/Los Feliz or head to Brooklyn and I don't think you'll see much in common with the bro brah crowd you mention.
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Basically I agree. I only used "hipster" to denote PBR consumers, as it seems to be the swill of choice. Many hipsters ingest PBR, but doing so does not necessarily make one a hipster.
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Again, maybe that's a Utah hipster. My definition of a hipster wouldn't touch PBR, they'd drink some local micro brew with a "beautiful" label. I think you're thinking of "bohemian" types, kinda what I see a lot of in Venice Beach.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(contemporary_subculture)
Hipster refers to a subculture of young, recently settled urban middle class adults and older teenagers that appeared in the 1990s. The subculture is associated with independent music, a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility, liberal or independent political views, alternative spirituality or atheism/agnosticism, and alternative lifestyles. Interests in media include independent film, magazines such as Clash, and websites like Pitchfork Media.[1]

Hipster culture has been described as a "mutating, trans-Atlantic melting pot of styles, tastes and behavior."[1] Christian Lorentzen of Time Out New York argues that "hipsterism fetishizes the authentic" elements of all of the "fringe movements of the postwar era—beat, hippie, punk, even grunge," and draws on the "cultural stores of every unmelted ethnicity," and "regurgitates it with a winking inauthenticity."[2]

Critics, such as Armond White, accuse hipsterism of adhering to cynicism, nihilism, and associated amorality.
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http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/business/PBR-Sells-Out-Hipsters-Responsible-94944874.html
...but PBR is the beer that experienced an incredible spike in sales recently, thanks to "bike messengers and other younger drinkers," according to Crain's.

These "younger drinkers" looking to make a "non-mainstream" statement—a.k.a. hipsters—made the beer so successful that the company felt comfortable raising prices without risking their customer following.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/business ... z2ED7rGBN2
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http://www.cracked.com/funny-3185-pabst-blue-ribbon/
1. Pabst Blue Ribbon is a historically low-priced beer originating in Milwaukee.
2. The story of the "Blue Ribbon" award from 1893 is likely an urban legend.
3. It is currently associated with hipsters, who drink it ironically because of it's previous association with blue collar workers, surly punk rockers, and other "tough" types.
4. All these beer-snob hipsters ironically drinking this "cheap" beer has ironically driven up demand to where it is no longer cheap, costing nearly twice as much as it did 5 years ago.

Read more: http://www.cracked.com/funny-3185-pabst ... z2ED8Kx5Za
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http://mashable.com/2011/06/01/hipster-hiring/
Now the site is hiring -- using some of that $1 million, it seems -- and in typical attention-grabbing fashion, Hipster is offering folks prizes for referring friends to those positions (all engineering jobs) as well as applying themselves.

If Hipster hires you or someone you refer, you could nab $10,000, one year's supply of PBR -- hipster nectar of the gods, a fixie, skinny jeans, Buddy Holly glasses, mustache grooming services, worn-out brown boots and a pinstriped bowtie. (Would have been nice to have some more stuff for the hipster ladies, guys. Maybe some Native American-inspired jewelry or a nice vintage floral dress?)
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What I find interesting about the pejorative “hipster” label, is that, unlike say . . . “yuppie,” it seems to apply to individuals who fall within extremely wide ranges of income, wealth, and degrees of professional success, from the individuals who make up the “collective” that just bought Powder Mountain, to the single-speed devotees living 5 or 6 to the rented house in my somewhat-scruffy South Minneapolis neighborhood.

It is interesting how they apparently favor colonization whether organized (Eden, UT) or organic (Billyburg).

As for the beer choices: in and around my neighborhood, local hipsters seem to have somewhat gotten over their fascination with Grain Belt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_Belt_%28beer%29) and have been at least partly responsible for the success of a groovy new neighborhood brewery (http://www.harrietbrewing.com/), and a new brewpub (http://www.northboundbrewpub.com/). (In the case of Northbound, the business raised capital, in part by selling beer-for-life shares to neighborhood residents for a grand each.)
 
I'll back up Marc C's thing on PBR. Every time a former colleague would joke about drinking Pabst, I'd say, "I don't drink hipster beer." (When in reality, I suppose, plenty of so-called hipsters dig West Coast IPAs.) Every time I go to a show, I see dudes drinking those tall boys, not that they are all certified hipsters, but ...
 
As the resident Brooklynite, and self admitted hipster (indie band/artisinal food/vintage clothes etc.). I have to say I never noticed many people drinking a ton of PBR. I agree that it is more like a hipster to spend a ton on some local micro-beer. My take on the increase of PBR sales is the fact that the economy still sucks, and PBR is about as cheap as it gets. In all honesty, I really don't see the connection whatsoever with hipsterdom and pbr.

flyover":2f35w8bg said:
socal":2f35w8bg said:
Maybe hipsters are different in UT but the whole "bro brah" thing doesn't really fit my definition of hipster.
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btw this thread is rad.
 
well, I remember drinking PBR there on tap on New Years eve, 2008, when it was surely not aimed at hipsters. It was used to wash down chili served in a styrofoam cup. UT is always about 25 years behind any east coast trend. Based on the preceeding posts, it looks like PBR will remain for very different reasons.
 
rfarren":1gg9n5kb said:
As the resident Brooklynite, and self admitted hipster (indie band/artisinal food/vintage clothes etc.). I have to say I never noticed many people drinking a ton of PBR. I agree that it is more like a hipster to spend a ton on some local micro-beer. My take on the increase of PBR sales is the fact that the economy still sucks, and PBR is about as cheap as it gets. In all honesty, I really don't see the connection whatsoever with hipsterdom and pbr.

flyover":1gg9n5kb said:
socal":1gg9n5kb said:
Maybe hipsters are different in UT but the whole "bro brah" thing doesn't really fit my definition of hipster.
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btw this thread is rad.
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Yeah, bro/brah is probably outside the sphere of hipster. Read the references I gave above; google <pbr and hipster> if you want a lot more. The recent economy has nothing to do with it as PBR as drink of choice started in the 90's. *Your* individual perception and hipster interpretation really doesn't matter - its that single data point thing again.

But hipsterism is besides the point. The one inarguable fact though all this is that PBR sucks as hard as Bud/MGD/et al. If you want pure beer abomination, add "Lite" to any of those. It's all beer for people who hate beer or drives people to say they hate beer.
 
Sex In A Canoe beer. 'Nuf said.

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I like expensive beer as much as the next guy, but honestly I drink mostly cheap stuff now, as in Bud, Corona, Coors, PBR. It is a very much a cost thing, but the other side of it is that craft beer and cheap wine leave you with bad headaches, cheap beer and nice wine leave you with no headaches.

In regards to PBR and hipsters, that ain't the case in Brooklyn... it might be so in Portland, but that just shows me that Portland sucks.
 
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