Storm may allow Killington to open early

cd, you are completely 100% right and i completely agree with you. too bad ASC doesn't see that fact from an operational point of view as far as making a profit is concerned. :?
 
Mark Renson":2a5bie9d said:
JimG.":2a5bie9d said:
The emphasis on "quality top to bottom product"
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If they were serious about that, they wouldn't touch anything :lol:
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I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that, why I put the phrase in quotes. Here they have 3' of amazing and rare October snow, all for free, and they're still droning on about waiting to open to ensure a quality top to bottom product.

This more than anything shows they just don't get it.
 
Chromer":pxe4pyji said:
According to the report at http://www.basinski.com , they have been busy grooming terrain into an intermediate-friendly product for a rumored Friday opening.

(I can hear Ranger Renson screaming from here.)
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Actually, I like groomers .........it's just not every single friggin' run at a McResort that boasts about how they BRUTALLY GROOMED 98% of their terrain. I like pizza & beer, too, but not every single friggin' meal.
 
ASC doesn't own everything up there. Let's hope several areas join Wildcat in opening this weekend to underline ASC's stinginess. It may be that Wildcat has the most snow, because it sounds like they had an earlier smaller storm that most of the others didn't get. And Mark, what about MRG?

With regard to 98% grooming, that is Snow Summit's normal policy. But last October they left 2 terrain pods ungroomed but open for skiing if you were willing to skate a couple minutes at the bottom to get back to the groomed.
 
Sugarloaf hit the jackpot with this early season snow, with 40 inches (see pictureshttp://www.sugarloaf.com/), but you won't see any of the ASC resorts open early. No matter how much snow they get, they lose money this time of year.....if you're a season passholder, they already got your dough; if you're not, well chances are you're not that interested in skiing in October or early November and wouldn't come anyway. Christ, most families still have kids playing soccer ! In my opinion ASC has outgrown the "first to open; last to close" marketing mentality and I think they've got all their mountains on pretty much the same schedules. The reality is they're not going to kill themselves to open 2 weeks early to sell a couple of dozen day tickets.

BTW, my daughter lives at the Loaf and told me the skiing has been great, so get out your skins !! :lol:
 
I think Sugarloaf is too far to get daytrip business from the Northeast metro areas. Sort of like the well-known phenomenon that Vail is the max that Denver daytrippers will drive; thus crowd issues everywhere farther west in Colorado are minimal.

And I remember the extended discussion on the "where to live" thread. L.A. to Big Bear is like Denver to Vail: 2 hours one way. Is that the limit for Boston/Connecticut/NY skiers? If so Cannon looks like the only area that gets a lot of comment here that is close enough, maybe Stratton and Mt. Snow.

Wildcat and Killington are within 3 hours. Is that good enough?

And therefore are Sugarbush, MRG, Stowe unacceptably far?

Jay is certainly close enough to Montreal. Shouldn't it (or someone in the Townships) open?
 
Tony Crocker":195lcxb9 said:
I think Sugarloaf is too far to get daytrip business from the Northeast metro areas. Sort of like the well-known phenomenon that Vail is the max that Denver daytrippers will drive; thus crowd issues everywhere farther west in Colorado are minimal.

And I remember the extended discussion on the "where to live" thread. L.A. to Big Bear is like Denver to Vail: 2 hours one way. Is that the limit for Boston/Connecticut/NY skiers? If so Cannon looks like the only area that gets a lot of comment here that is close enough, maybe Stratton and Mt. Snow.

Wildcat and Killington are within 3 hours. Is that good enough?

And therefore are Sugarbush, MRG, Stowe unacceptably far?

Jay is certainly close enough to Montreal. Shouldn't it (or someone in the Townships) open?
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I agree that 2 hours is the threshold of pain for most day trippers whether it's from LA, from Denver, or from Boston.

New York is 4+ hours from Killington if you have a lead foot and don't hit a rush hour. From NYC, you'd day trip to Hunter. People do the 2.75 to 3 hour day trip from Boston to Killington all the time but most divert to the smaller New Hampshire areas like Loon and Waterville that are the magic 1.75 to 2 hours away. Cannon is a couple exits farther up I-93 and gets somewhat less skier visits.

The discounted season passes seem to have increased Killington's day trip business significantly. Last year, lodging numbers were off even though skier visit numbers were up.
 
Tony Crocker":e3l0l97x said:
Jay is certainly close enough to Montreal. Shouldn't it (or someone in the Townships) open?
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There is almost no snow in the townships... At least, not to open a resort... If you look at the pictures on skibromont.com you'll see that the mountain still has some white stuff on it but everything around it is green...

I'm going up to Jay Peak this week-end... on saturday i'll be hiking and riding and on sunday we'll be mountain biking on the little snow that will be left in the lower elevation... I can't wait to ride October snow again! (last time was on Canadian Thanksgiving at Jay in 18in of snow on Oct 10th or about)
 
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