Updated Thoughts...Locally up to 18" possible in northe

powderfreak

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Let me start by looking at what can go wrong: Wind flow is off ever so
slightly. A difference of a couple degrees of direction will make a big
difference. I'd like more cold air advection to mix in with the moist
flow from the Canadian Martimes. Besides those two things, I really can't
come up with much that can go wrong.

Vertically stacked cut-off low pressure system from the surface to 850mb
to 700mb to 500mb to 300mb means the deep low over the Canadian Martimes
is not moving anywhere soon. Once it absorbs the low pressure system that
is moving through the northern Mid-Atlantic and southern New England, it
will back ever so slightly bringing moisture into the north country of NY
and VT. Last chance for major model changes will be at 00z tonight and
that will be the time that it is obvious what effect the energy bringing
snow to NYC will do.

I feel very confident with a significant upslope snowfall event. One with
heavy snowfall and high winds bringing blizzard conditions to the higher
terrain of the Greens and Adirondacks from Friday evening through a chunk
of Saturday. This event will pulse, like its alive, as chunks of energy
and slight deviations in moisture/dynamics swing through. Upper level
300mb low is completely cut off from the jet stream and actually develops
its own jet streak that moves in from the NE. I don't know if I've ever
seen that before on the models. It would bring extremely favorable jet
dynamics that are usually not present for these events.

Since the atmosphere is vertically stacked, it also means the favorable NW
flow is coming in from all levels from the surface to the jet stream.
Again, not sure I've seen this situation before. Usually, we get a NW
flow to maybe 700mb but the jet stream is still blasting through west to
east. This set up is going to allow clouds to build, and build high.
Much like Lake Effect, you do not need high cloud growth to get good
precipitation rates, but it certainly does not hurt...same goes for
convection/thunderstorms, the higher the better. All atmospheric profiles
look good for strong lift through all levels bringing very steep lapse
rates.

This will likely come in waves, some hours heavier than others from Friday
afternoon through Saturday afternoon. Duration will not be an issue.
24hrs of favorable conditions appear likely. A shot of dynamics and
strong 500mb vort max moves through Friday afternoon. Still think a line
of squalls/heavier snow showers will move through the Champlain Valley,
Adirondacks, and Greens tomorrow evening. I like the NWS forecast of up
to 2" straight to the valley floors with this line by tomorrow evening.
Models bring in deeper moisture to 700mb and increase precipital water
from the NE, thank you Maritime air.

Then, Friday night is periods of heavy snow from the MRG/SB region
northward in the Green Mountains and across the northern Adirondacks.
Winds increase to 50-70mph at 5,000ft. Heavy snow and blowing snow with
cold temps will cause brutal conditions during Friday night above 2,000ft
along the spine and northern Adirondacks.

Winds will be a problem on Saturday...for lift operations especially. NW
winds of 40-60kts for most of the day on Saturday at 5,000ft and 30kt
gusts at the surface will make Saturday feel quite cold. But it will aid
in the transport of moisture up and over the spine throughout the day.

Snowfall will continue at varying intensities during Saturday. I haven't
looked into Lake Champlain enhancement into northern Addison county but
might need to be considered later.

I will throw out some rough guesses for snowfall right now, I do not like
to go high with forecasts at this time period away from an event.
However, I've never seen quite these dynamics for an upslope event so I'm
not exactly sure what to expect. Will follow model QPF relatively close
with changes made to my local knowledge.

By early afternoon on Saturday, a general 6-12" across Green
Mountain/northern Adirondack lower elevations (500-2,000ft) with up to 18"
above 2,000ft, especially the further north you go but generally with
these events, all bets are off. This might be conservative but is the
route to go until I can see it develop on Friday.

Here's a map of projected model QPF...these are liquid amounts and with the cold air, good snow growth with upslope events, fluff factor will be significant. Use 15 or 20 to 1 ratios and figure out what your favorite mountain might be looking at:

48hr_pcpn_48.gif


More to follow, possibly tonight, likely tomorrow.

-Scott
 
Winter Storm Watch issued for portions of the Green Mountains and Adirondacks...very vague but check out the time on it...from Friday through Saturday. One of the longest duration watches I've ever seen BTV issue.

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT
246 PM EST THU MAR 2 2006

...HEAVY SNOW POSSIBLE FOR PORTIONS OF THE NORTH COUNTRY...

.AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER EASTERN CANADA WILL MOVE
A SERIES OF SURFACE SYSTEMS SOUTH INTO THE NORTH COUNTRY FRIDAY
THROUGH LATE SATURDAY NIGHT. NORTH TO NORTHWEST WINDS WILL DEVELOP
OVER THE AREA AS WELL. SNOWFALL WILL BEGIN TO FALL ACROSS THE AREA
BY FRIDAY MORNING. THE UPSLOPE FLOW WILL ENHANCE THE SNOWFALL OVER
WESTERN SLOPES OF THE GREEN MOUNTAINS AND THE NORTHERN ADIRONDACKS.
THIS WILL BE A PROLONGED EVENT OVER THESE AREAS...RESULTING IN
POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL TOTALS BY SATURDAY EVENING.

NYZ029>031-034-VTZ003-006-008-016-017-031000-
/O.NEW.KBTV.WS.A.0003.060303T1200Z-060305T0000Z/
SOUTHEASTERN ST. LAWRENCE-SOUTHERN FRANKLIN-WESTERN CLINTON-
WESTERN ESSEX-ORLEANS-LAMOILLE-WASHINGTON-EASTERN FRANKLIN-
EASTERN CHITTENDEN-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...STAR LAKE...SARANAC LAKE...
TUPPER LAKE...DANNEMORA...LAKE PLACID...NEWPORT...JOHNSON...
STOWE...MONTPELIER...ENOSBURG FALLS...RICHFORD...UNDERHILL
246 PM EST THU MAR 2 2006

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH
SATURDAY EVENING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN BURLINGTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH
SATURDAY EVENING. THE WATCH IS FOR THE WESTERN SLOPES OF THE GREEN
MOUNTAINS...NORTH CENTRAL VERMONT...AND THE ADIRONDACKS OF
NORTHERN NEW YORK.

THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR 6 OR MORE INCHES OF SNOW BY SATURDAY
EVENING.

PLEASE STAY TUNED TO NOAA WEATHER RADIO...YOUR LOCAL MEDIA...OR
GO TO http://WWW.WEATHER.GOV/BURLINGTON FOR FURTHER UPDATES ON THIS
WEATHER SITUATION.


Forecast for northern VT (remember this is for the towns/villages/lower elevations):
VTZ003-006-008-016-017-031015-
ORLEANS-LAMOILLE-WASHINGTON-EASTERN FRANKLIN-EASTERN CHITTENDEN-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...NEWPORT...JOHNSON...STOWE...MONTPELIER...
ENOSBURG FALLS...RICHFORD...UNDERHILL
248 PM EST THU MAR 2 2006

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY MORNING THROUGH SATURDAY
EVENING...

.TONIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH SNOW SHOWERS LIKELY. UP TO AN INCH
ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE. LOWS AROUND 5 ABOVE. NORTHWEST WINDS 10 TO 20
MPH. CHANCE OF SNOW 60 PERCENT.
.FRIDAY...SNOW SHOWERS LIKELY. SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 1 TO 3 INCHES.
BRISK WITH HIGHS IN THE MID TEENS. NORTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25 MPH.
CHANCE OF SNOW 70 PERCENT.
.FRIDAY NIGHT...OCCASIONAL SNOW SHOWERS. SNOW ACCUMULATION A 1 TO 3
INCHES. BRISK WITH LOWS AROUND 10 ABOVE. NORTHWEST WINDS 15 TO 25
MPH.
.SATURDAY...SNOW SHOWERS LIKELY. ADDITIONAL MODERATE SNOW
ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 20S. NORTHWEST WINDS 15 TO
20 MPH. CHANCE OF SNOW 70 PERCENT.
.SATURDAY NIGHT...SNOW SHOWERS LIKELY. ADDITIONAL LIGHT SNOW
ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE. LOWS AROUND 10 ABOVE. NORTHWEST WINDS 10 TO
20 MPH. CHANCE OF SNOW 60 PERCENT.
.SUNDAY...MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH A 40 PERCENT CHANCE OF SNOW SHOWERS.
HIGHS IN THE UPPER 20S.
 
As usual, Northern Greens around Jay seem to have the most moisture to work with and will likely get pummeled again.

More snowfall possible next week too. Time to make some real plans for a trip to your neck of the woods around Stowe Scott.
 
necn is saying a foot for the whites, total crap or what? Who do you think will do better wildcat or cannon?
 
I was planning to take advantage of my oldest daughter missing music class because of a bad cold and heading down for a day trip to Whiteface. :D

But unfortunately that plan has been vetoed by wife. :cry: I guess after 13 days out West, it's not a surprise. :? Will have to wait for the second half of March Break (15-17) to ski bigger hills. :roll:
 
Off to MRG on Sunday after the kids C.S.I.A programs . Just did a review of weather reports and this time Northern /Central VT and Quebec Townships received 6 to 12 inches of snow and still coming down as of 7.00 am this morning. This upcoming week looks like a good one .
 
awf170":3pd7i3hx said:
necn is saying a foot for the whites, total crap or what? Who do you think will do better wildcat or cannon?
cannon is reporting in 11-13" at noon time today. i drove north through the notch around that time and it was still snowing pretty good and the mountain looked excellent. i think plans for burke tomorrow may be scraped in favor of cannon. i am not sure how much i am going to hold myself back. i shall let the pain be the guide, heh! :twisted:
 
riverc0il":3qop01hy said:
awf170":3qop01hy said:
necn is saying a foot for the whites, total crap or what? Who do you think will do better wildcat or cannon?
cannon is reporting in 11-13" at noon time today. i drove north through the notch around that time and it was still snowing pretty good and the mountain looked excellent. i think plans for burke tomorrow may be scraped in favor of cannon. i am not sure how much i am going to hold myself back. i shall let the pain be the guide, heh! :twisted:


:x :x :x :x :x :x :x :x guess which one I picked... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) #-o #-o #-o :roll: :roll:

absotely no snow at wildcat, about 5 flakes the whole day.

Maybe, just maybe I can convince my parents to let go to cannon tomorrow...

got any idea if the summit was open at cannon today.
 
powderfreak":23k3yckn said:
By early afternoon on Saturday, a general 6-12" across Green
Mountain/northern Adirondack lower elevations (500-2,000ft) with up to 18"
above 2,000ft, especially the further north you go but generally with
these events, all bets are off. This might be conservative but is the
route to go until I can see it develop on Friday.

-Scott
Pretty impressive forcasting!!! You nailed this one. I know where I'm looking next time!

PS- Do you do windsurfing forcasts, too?
 
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