Where are you going this season (25/26)?

I know a number of people who do that, including Tony (and Tseeb?) here.
For this season I have Base Ikon ($859 after $50 renewal discount) and Senior Tahoe Value (Epic- $482). I usually get more days on the Tahoe Value Pass that has holiday blackouts plus all Saturdays blacked out at Kirkwood and Northstar, some years I get twice as many days vs Ikon. But last year, when I had the Full Ikon (was $1149 after $100 renewal discount), I had 30 days on Ikon and 16 on Epic, my first season with more Ikon days. Most of it was due to long road trip to CO and UT and 6 days in May at Palisades and Mammoth.

Last season my wife had the non-Senior Tahoe Value and did not use enough so I did not renew it. She can get half-price at Vail Tahoe resorts from my pass and also gets 5 days at Sierra-Tahoe plus unlimited non-holidays at Mammoth and Palisades on her Ikon. Last year she had the Ikon Base+ that was $1049 after $50 renewal and $20 class action discounts. Base+ has been discontinued so we went with Base as we don't plan to return to Alta or Aspen this season.

Edit to add interesting price history found at https://www.epicorikon.com/price-history - you can select Base or Full for Ikon.
And I corrected this year's Base Ikon price with another edit.
 
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I have Base Ikon ($1149 after $100 renewal discount)
How in the world did you pay so much for a Base Ikon?

Mine was only $859

I'm sad that Base+ went away. I can't see myself ever needing more than 5 days at AltaBird, Jackson, Aspen , etc... I had that upgrade pass for one season and the extra $200 over Base was a good price point for me. I don't want even more days at those places and therefore don't want to pay for a full Ikon price to go to those at all...
 
I know a number of people who do that, including Tony (and Tseeb?) here.
I get Indy from NASJA some years. Since age 70 my free Mountain High pass gives me Powder Alliance. I have to have full Ikon for Mammoth + Iron Blosam week.

Lonnie's 21-23 road trips he had the kitchen sink: Ikon, Epic, Mountain Collective, Indy, Powder Alliance, Loveland. Loveland had very extensive partner arrangements in 2021; Liz got one, skied 8 days on it, none of them at Loveland. Many of those former Loveland partners have been taken over by Indy, Power Pass, etc.
 
.. end rant.
The benchy terrain sucks for snowboarders; I warned snowave before he moved there. Wolf Creek and Discovery are owned by brothers of the same family. Discovery management seems well regarded, based on impressions we get from q. Both areas are among the highest profile left that are not on any multiarea pass, as listed in Stuart's article MarzNC mentioned.

Wolf Creek's early season record remain impressive despite them opening on very sketchy coverage. MarzNC's bet on early/mid December is a good one, though this may be among the ~10% or so of seasons when it won't be.
 
Both areas are among the highest profile left that are not on any multiarea pass, as listed in Stuart's article MarzNC mentioned.

The Pitcher's are well know in Pagosa, and from my experience, not well liked as owners of Wolf.


Wolf Creek
Supersaver Season Pass (which inlcudes 44 blackout days)!
$815 EARLY PRICE

Unrestricted Pass:

$1102 Early Bird Price



In comparison, for early season price, I paid $399 @ Tamarack and $449 at Brundage (for midweek)... even the full pass prices were $599!



I'm not saying everyone needs to be on a multi area pass... and if you're getting all the $, why would they, I guess?

They have their base in the Texans/LA's who are the primary skiers on extended weekends/holidays/and basically all of March until the end of the season.
 
Oh, and then there's the Texans...
I've mentioned before that when I lived on the Front Range in the 80s, Texans with oil money were the cliched "cultural villains" who inspired the inescapable
native.webp

bumper stickers. I'm trying to think of the indie ski areas that are popular with them. In addition to Wolf Creek, I'd say Monarch, Red River, Angel Fire, and Apache (when it's open). Any others?
 
Texans I've experienced when living in CO are Nice enough people (I still have several Pagosa friends) they just clutter up the ski areas (and generally don't know how to ski) and drive like idiots. Of course, idiot drivers are everywhere.

I think Crested Butte is another popular one for Texans.
 
Skip Wolf Creek. They're greedy bastards, and the "resort" sucks. Their prices have skyrocketed in the last few years, and some people I know can't even get a season pass anymore... or if they do, it's blacked out half the season. (p.s. I lived there for 3 yrs).

The only good thing going for them is (usually) snowfall, however they're in the same boat as many... sure 80% open, but if you don't want to ski on rocks, you stick to the 10% decent run coverage on about 15". My buddy that lives there was up the other day and bragged that at least he's on snow... I guess there's that, which right now is something.

Oh, and then there's the Texans...
As for Texans, we've seen far more jerks from Oklahoma after college exams are over in early December. Now . . . Texans in Taos are another story. ;)

When did you leave Pagosa?

In comparison, for early season price, I paid $399 @ Tamarack and $449 at Brundage (for midweek)... even the full pass prices were $599!
As with everything, location matters. More people can drive to Wolf Creek from NM, TX, OK than live within a day's drive of Tamarack and Brundage. Plus Bogus Basin is where locals from Boise go most of the time. From the east, much easier to get to Denver than Boise, whether flying or driving.

For context, the season pass for my home hill in VA is over $500 . . . for about 100 acres total with no off-piste terrain. The longest run takes no more than 5 minutes for an intermediate good enough to not stop from summit to base.

A season pass seems in line for a 1-location pass in CO. Two of us have senior SuperSaver passes and those are under $400 during the Pre-season sale week. In addition to the Dec week, we're going to ski a few days driving from Taos in early March. Several of the days we'll be there are Local Appreciation Days so lift tickets will be less for my friends who buy day tickets.

Agree that Wolf Creek is not a resort. The name is after all Wolf Creek Ski Area. However, for my crew the fact that fewer people are willing to drive 20-30 minutes for a ski day is a plus, not a minus. I find the food at WCSA more reasonable and suits me better than at any Epic or Ikon resort in Colorado. I'm a morning person. I like to arrive early, ski hard in the morning, and stop for a leisurely hot lunch. I ski until 3:30 or 4:00 but how hard and on what terrain depends on who I ski with and snow conditions. Can be the time to cruise with friends who are warming up for the season on groomers.

I've skied at WCSA with 25 inches mid-mountain in December. For what my senior friends and I want from an early season trip, it was fine. Plus having a lesson from a 20+ year L3 instructor (CB, Vail) on groomers is also helpful for the rest of the season. Different strokes for different folks.
 
How in the world did you pay so much for a Base Ikon?

Mine was only $859

I'm sad that Base+ went away. I can't see myself ever needing more than 5 days at AltaBird, Jackson, Aspen , etc... I had that upgrade pass for one season and the extra $200 over Base was a good price point for me. I don't want even more days at those places and therefore don't want to pay for a full Ikon price to go to those at all...
I corrected my post with edit above. $859 is what my Base Ikon costs and they spread payment out over 6 months so it's $286.33/mo. for 2 passes.

I'd also consider returning to Base+. Maybe if enough people downgraded instead of upgrading, they'll bring it back. I had Full last season thinking I'd go to Palisades over Christmas holidays as I hear it's not too busy but didn't. I did go to Sierra on Sunday of President's Weekend which is a blackout day and was busy.
 
I'd also consider returning to Base+. Maybe if enough people downgraded instead of upgrading, they'll bring it back.
Ikon Base Plus is unlikely to return. The independent Partners such as Alta, Jackson Hole, Aspen/Snowmass are the resorts who don't want too many people using Ikon Base on their slopes. Especially during holiday periods. They are the ones who forced the creation of Base Plus in the first place. Stuart covered that topic with Rusty Gregory in 2022 just before he retired from Alterra. Note that those resorts are also on the Mountain Collective, which doesn't have blackout dates. The MC pass only covers 2 days and addition days bring in 50% of the full day ticket price so a traveler is less likely to ski 4-5 days during the same trip.

When a resort offers Ikon Base for a discounted add-on price, upgrades to Full Ikon are not allowed. At least in the northeast, there are a fair number of 1-location season pass holders who also get Ikon Base. I think the price has been under $400. Some don't even realize that Ikon Base doesn't include all the Ikon resorts.

Note that Snowbird and Taos opted to allow Ikon Base use after being on Base Plus.
 
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