Young Males Keep Falling From Chairlifts Out West

To repeat my rant upthread, I'm still convinced that it's some (apolitical, non-gender-specific) regional libertarianism that'll never change -- and education or scolding will only make it worse, like a teenager disobeying his parents.

"You must be from the East." :eusa-wall:

Nope.

Sure, there may be some rebellious kids out there doing if for that reason, but many of us that live out west and ski/ride year after year can tell you it's primarily just something most of us don't think about (putting the bar down). There's rarely a discussion about safety bars on the lifts in all places I've ridden, and if there is... it's not usually an issue to put it down if someone wants to (although, i may groan if it's a full lift and I'm stuck in the middle on my board with 3 skiers).

I think for whatever reason, it's just never really been a thing... an it's probably just passed onto the next generation without thought.
 
I often use chairlift safety bars out West because I am too lazy to remove my smaller sidecountry backpack (limited gear), and get pushed forward when seated on a lift.

My exceptions are Riblet center pole lifts, and older lifts built without bars - backpack comes off or moved to the front.
That's one reason my daypack is small. It will fit over above the back of most chairlifts. The fancy new Doppelmayrs like chairs 1 and 16 have higher seatbacks and are the exception.

Sure, there may be some rebellious kids out there doing if for that reason, but many of us that live out west and ski/ride year after year can tell you it's primarily just something most of us don't think about (putting the bar down). There's rarely a discussion about safety bars on the lifts in all places I've ridden, and if there is... it's not usually an issue to put it down if someone wants to (although, i may groan if it's a full lift and I'm stuck in the middle on my board with 3 skiers).

I think for whatever reason, it's just never really been a thing... an it's probably just passed onto the next generation without thought.
Snowave absolutely hits the nail on the head here. Thus my conclusion in post #38 above.
 
For those in cheap seats in the back... Bar down yesterday at Brundage! (that's my wife next to me).



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Below is the Powder Seeker 6-pack at Big Sky.

I really despise this lift 'advanced technology' with miniscule footrests between the legs, and the auto-locking mechanism. Supposedly, it's for child safety. However, more often a boarder gets equipment incorrectly positioned, bar gets lock, and everyone is SOL for the ride.

Bar barely comes up until well-inside the upper lift terminus.

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The bubble is optional and can be moved up and down during the lift ride. The rest is non-negotiable.

Europe (Austria in particular) has a lot of these Doppelmayr high-altitude, suspended prisons!

Ok, that's slightly better... but still, that sucks (especially for a boarder... good way to hurt someone).
 
According to Lift Blog, people are dropping all over the place. 3 chairlift related deaths in the past week or so which seems nuts. A Teen at Cypress BC, a child at ski Apache and a 60 year old at Timberline, WV.

That's a LOT of major incidents for even a full season, let a lone such a short time period.
 
many of us that live out west and ski/ride year after year can tell you it's primarily just something most of us don't think about (putting the bar down).
In an example of speaking out both sides of my mouth -- most of the lifts at Greek Peak, NY are very old and not high off the ground so on a handful of rides last week, a) we didn't bother to lower the bar, and b) lifties didn't scold or reprimand us for it. For us and I suspect many people, it's related more to getting antsy about falling from a significant height than a "the safety bar must always be down no matter what!" mandate. Still, "skiers/boarders are free to make their own decisions about bar usage" will lead to injuries and deaths as shown in EMSC's previous post (even if it's a tiny percentage of total rides) so something has to give.

Remind me, are ski areas still protected from legal exposure caused by falls from chairlifts through the "skiing is an inherently dangerous sport" clause?

There's rarely a discussion about safety bars on the lifts in all places I've ridden, and if there is... it's not usually an issue to put it down if someone wants to
Agreed, however as noted upthread, there have been enough instances over the years where westerners make annoying (and a bit parochial because that indicates they've never skied outside the U.S.) comments.
 
For us and I suspect many people, it's related more to getting antsy about falling from a significant height than a "the safety bar must always be down no matter what!" mandate.
Yes, and it's not rational. Many people riding chair 23 look down and think, "OMG I really need a safety bar!" Yet chair 25 remains without one. It's not like you wouldn't get injured falling 20-25 feet off 25 but it doesn't scare people like 23 does.
 
Incident was Jan. 31, chair 17 (quad with bar but no footrest). I read some comments. She never got completely on the chair when loading, so it seems the lift traveled quite a ways before being stopped. Fortunately the girl was not injured, just has a sore hip. Very lucky considering she missed the net completely, hit just the corner of the tower pad.
 
I often use chairlift safety bars out West because I am too lazy to remove my smaller sidecountry backpack (limited gear), and get pushed forward when seated on a lift. My exceptions are Riblet center pole lifts, and older lifts built without bars - backpack comes off or moved to the front.
That's one reason my daypack is small. It will fit over above the back of most chairlifts. The fancy new Doppelmayrs like chairs 1 and 16 have higher seatbacks and are the exception.
Can't recall if it was brought up -- a couple weeks ago, an Australian snowboarder in Japan died after her backpack got entangled in a chair.

We've had the discussion before about the statistical unlikelihood of this happening and why people skiing lift-served/inbounds terrain want to bring along cameras, first aid items, extra goggles, extra layers of clothing, water, etc. I opt not to because it would quickly get annoying (and dangerous if I absentmindedly screw up) to have to deal with it on every single lift ride: how many per day? As a diabetic, what I need to carry are power bars and such for low-blood-sugar episodes; however, I just put them in a pocket inside my ski coat.
 
The cause of death was a heart attack in James’ link above! My pack situation is like the no helmet related to my poor temperature regulation. I nearly always carry alternative gloves and mid layer, and usually both glasses and googles.
 
Re Mammoth Chair 17, I'm kinda blown away that nobody seems to understand this was a major screwup by the lift crew. They absolutely have to press the stop button and there's plenty of time to do it before the chair reaches a dangerous height UNLESS THEY AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION.

Like, WTF???!!! There's a button. There's somebody whose job is to press it. (Kinda like a driver staring at their phone instead of looking thru the windshield, as if somebody else might be available to press the brake pedal.)

Same thing happened last season on Chair 2.

Prolly doesn't help that there's some moron high up on the org chart who thinks many Mammoth chairs should be set at ~11 inches cuz I guess every other ski area in the world that goes with the industry standard 18-20 is somehow wrong?
 
It's not just young men falling from chairlifts without safety bars.

 
It's hard to have a culture of safety bar use when most lifts do not have them out West.

Especially in the Northwest! I don't think you had a safety bar unless it was a new HS quad; many 1980s & 90s fixed-grip ski lifts lacked bars.



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New Data Reveals Nearly 1 in 4 U.S. Chairlifts Lack Restraint Bars​

Martin Kuprianowicz | January 22, 2026 |
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While restraint bars are standard equipment on chairlifts in most ski countries, new data shared this week highlights how unevenly they are adopted across the United States. According to figures published by Lift Blog on X, roughly 77% of chairlifts used for skiing nationwide are equipped with restraint bars, leaving nearly one in four lifts operating without them. The breakdown by region reveals significant disparities.

In a public X post shared by Lift Blog, the chairlift data resource shared that:

Nationally 77 percent of chairlifts used for skiing have restraint bars.

It varies widely by region:

Pacific Northwest: 80/136 = 59%

Pacific Southwest: 170/235 = 72%

Rocky Mountain: 474/608 = 78%

Midwest: 158/340 = 46%

Northeast: 437/437 = 100%

Southeast: 175/177 = 99%

In most countries the number is 100 percent.

Canada is 99.8%.
The Northeast and Southeast lead the country, with near-universal adoption. Every chairlift in the Northeast—437 out of 437—has a restraint bar, while the Southeast reports 175 of 177 lifts equipped, or 99% coverage, according to the Lift Blog. Vermont is the only state where it is the law to lower the restraint bar on a chairlift.

But the picture changes moving west.

In the Rocky Mountains, the country’s largest ski region by terrain and lift count, 474 of 608 lifts—about 78%—have restraint bars, according to data compiled by Lift Blog.
The Pacific Southwest follows closely at 72 percent (170 of 235), while the Pacific Northwest lags further behind, with restraint bars on just 59 percent of lifts (80 of 136).

The lowest rate appears in the Midwest, where only 158 of 340 lifts—about 46%—are equipped with restraint bars. Outside the United States, restraint bars are nearly universal. Lift Blog noted that most countries report 100 percent adoption, while Canada stands at 99.8 percent, making the U.S. an outlier among major ski nations.

Restraint bars are designed to reduce the risk of falls from chairlifts, particularly for children, beginners, and passengers in high winds or icy conditions. Their use has been the subject of debate in the U.S. ski industry for decades, with some resorts citing rider preference, legacy infrastructure, or operational flexibility as reasons for not installing them universally.

The regional split shows both the age of lift fleets and cultural differences across ski markets. Many older fixed-grip chairs in the Midwest and Pacific Northwest were installed decades ago without bars, while resorts in the Northeast and Southeast, with state regulations and insurance standards that are often stricter, have largely modernized their fleets. Lift Blog did not indicate whether the data includes only primary ski chairs or all passenger lifts, nor whether installations are required by state law or operator policy in each region.

As lift safety continues to draw attention across the industry, the figures offer a snapshot of how differently American resorts approach one of skiing’s most basic safety features—and how far the U.S. remains from the near-universal standards seen abroad.

 
From the article: When utilizing ski lifts around Colorado, it’s recommended that riders put the chairlift bar down. The chairlift bar, however, will not prevent all falls, thus caution should still be exercised.
"If that's the case, let's forget about the whole thing because they're not part of our skiing culture."
 
I agree with ChrisC not James on this issue. If you live in a region where 1/4 of lifts have no bar and it was more like 3/4 when you grew up, there will be no culture even suggesting mandatory use unless aggressively implemented by the resorts or the state. And it’s the mom and pop joints in the West that James glorifies that even today mostly do not have safety bars.
 
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