You're not the right arse to talk about lobster rolls. I'm not either; however, I am the right one to expound on the Syracuse Clambake.
Lobster Rolls
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???? I posted the pic from Western Australia in post #4 above. We were very close to the primary fishing center for the western Australia species of spiny lobster. That was an exceptionally good fresh seafood lunch.
And sbooker lives in the home of Moreton Bay Bugs! I've had them in restaurants around Cairns. Sbooker can tell us whether they make lobster rolls from them as in WA with the spiny lobsters.
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Why would it be called a Syracuse clambake? I'm guessing there's not a lot of seaweed (preferred method of steaming in James' link) in Syracuse.
Despite not being close to the ocean, steaming clams and serving them with local delicacies like salt potatoes, silver queen corn, Italian sausage, and coneys is a huge industry in Central New York.
As James drifts this thread inland toward meat products, I have to put in a plug for Leroy Meats in Wisconsin at the other end of that Rust Belt map. On the summer 2020 road trip we visited one of Liz' friends with a summer home on Fox Lake. She made sure we didn't hit the road west without a stop at Leroy.
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ChrisC
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And a 'Lobster Roll' is a status symbol best left to Instagram. Once every...other... every summer.
It's an expensive treat where any 'Yankee frugality' reigns supreme - if it's not an asset that appreciates, it's showy.
The assets: 20-50 yo Saab, Jeep Bronco, etc............. Listen: a new car is not in my vocabulary.
However, I do fight for trips to Europe or South America for skiing.
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ChrisC
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I commit food poisoning when clams are involved.
jasoncapecod
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Over the weekend while in Vermont,I had wonderful clams and mussels
To be honest, it was against my better judgment to eat them. It was a dish ordered for the table, but all worked out fine.
Just joking. My point is I'm no high roller (no pun intended) like you people.
I've only had lobster once and it was good but in my view not good enough to justify the price. I don't even order them if on a work junket as high end food and wine go against my spend thrift nature.
We call lobster painted crayfish here in Queensland. Down south and WA call them rock lobster. I am going to WA in October and will make a point of tracking down my first ever lobster roll just so I can review it on here. @Tony Crocker can you recall where you had yours?
Moreton Bay Bugs are also good but nowhere near as nice texture wise as lobster or sand crab or mud crab. It is a lot firmer which can venture into an almost tough texture. To my knowledge bug rolls are not a thing like lobster rolls are in New England.
I think our local sand crab ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portunus_pelagicus ) is as good tasting as lobster although can be a bit fiddly to clean and consume because it's flesh isn't as bulky. It is beautiful though. Mud crab is also wonderful and easier to get to the flesh because they are larger but they are a stronger flavour which doesn't appeal to everyone. Crab sandwiches are relatively common here but not an icon like the lobster roll.
Slightly off topic but will I offend anyone if I suggest that clam chowder is a bit over rated? Perhaps I haven't got the right one. I've had it from the usual jaunts in San Fran and Seattle.
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This is me. Who knew a descendant of the first fleet to Australia could have Yankee traits?
https://www.lobstershack.com.au/restaurant/ in Cervantes, near the Pinnacles, about 2 hours north of Perth.
That would be like a Mayflower descendant in the USA! What did your ancestors do in Britain to merit that honor?
Thanks. My intention is to travel south of Perth but given it's the tail end of the wetter season good weather is not guaranteed. I will head north if things look inclement in the south. I just may make it to the Lobster Shack.
Some bloke called Nicoll on my mum's side was not staff on the first fleet. He was a thief apparently.
Odds would be high that someone on that ship was an inmate not part of the crew. Isn't that considered prestigious in Oz these days? The vast majority of transported people to Australia in those early days were petty thieves. I highly recommend the book The Fatal Shore about the penal colony era. I bought it for my first Oz trip in 1997 but found it so fascinating that I finished it before we left.
I have at least 26 ancestors who emigrated to New England in the 17th century, but none quite as early as the Mayflower.
A couple of Liz' ancestors were considered political troublemakers in Ireland and were kicked out by the British in 1837, ending up in rural Vermont, not far from where my 1/8 Irish ancestors ended up a little later.
We had intended to go exclusively south from Perth but were alerted to the Pinnacles by someone on the eclipse cruise out of Broome the prior week. The lobster shack was an unexpected bonus.
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I have Irish ancestry on my mum's side too. A good portion of them enjoyed drinking alcohol far too much. My mum often warns her grandkids - "Please be very careful with drinking kids. You have alcoholism in your genes". She has been a teetotaler for decades. So her side is a mix of drunks and criminals.......
Thanks. I'm a reader and this type of book is up my street.
I can guarantee that I am not part of "you people" on this forum.
I've mentioned before that the two of us should compare notes to see who's a bigger cheapskate (sorry, "spendthrift!").
EMSC
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That sounds a lot like Charlie Chaplin's famous line: "I don't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member."I can guarantee that I am not part of "you people" on this forum.
Don't worry all I eat is lobster and Bon-bons 24/7
.No Speedies? (granted more Binghamton-ish than Syracuse, but regionally important to CNY food scene).
I believe that was Groucho Marx but same difference. I heard Woody Allen say it in one of his movies and thought for years that it was his line.
Ah, Spiedies (but pronounced "Speedies"). Yet another upstate food item that I wish were available in a faux-meat version. Correct, that's 100% Binghamton/Southern Tier, definitely not Syracuse. I only learned of them from family cookouts in Cortland.
Never happened to me despite eating hundreds/thousands of clams over the years.
I don't think I've ever tried one and given the price point that youse mention, I probably never will.
Definitely something a lobster roll connoisseur would not say.
Don't think you would say that after a long visit to the Boston area and the Massachusetts and Maine coastline. I went to high school near Boston. Trips to Boston or Maine usually include lobster, although not always a lobster roll. On one trip a while back with my husband and his old friend, they wanted to sample the lobster roll at McDonald's.
Long ago, lobster wasn't considered good food at all. It was a nuisance catch for fishermen.
From Trash to Treasure. The Great American Lobster History. | Samuels Seafood
Many of us know that Lobsters were once considered the poor man's food. It was cheap and plentiful, and thus eaten by the poor, prisoners, servants, and even pigs or goats on farms. It wasn’t until the 1860’s, during the Civil War, when Lobster started to become more mainstream. Canning seafood...
www.samuelsseafood.com
These days, there are a few companies specializing in selling lobster rolls all over the country. One of the franchise chains even has a location in Italy. Now easy to find a lobster roll in North Carolina, but only in the last decade or so.
Interesting. I had no idea.Don't think you would say that after a long visit to the Boston area and the Massachusetts and Maine coastline. I went to high school near Boston. Trips to Boston or Maine usually include lobster, although not always a lobster roll. On one trip a while back with my husband and his old friend, they wanted to sample the lobster roll at McDonald's.
Long ago, lobster wasn't considered good food at all. It was a nuisance catch for fishermen.
From Trash to Treasure. The Great American Lobster History. | Samuels Seafood
Many of us know that Lobsters were once considered the poor man's food. It was cheap and plentiful, and thus eaten by the poor, prisoners, servants, and even pigs or goats on farms. It wasn’t until the 1860’s, during the Civil War, when Lobster started to become more mainstream. Canning seafood...
These days, there are a few companies specializing in selling lobster rolls all over the country. One of the franchise chains even has a location in Italy. Now easy to find a lobster roll in North Carolina, but only in the last decade or so.
And thanks. I will expound this knowledge on unsuspecting victims at some point soon.