Alta, UT 1/25/09

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Day 28: What can go wrong, will go wrong.

The road wasn't scheduled to open until 10 am this morning, so I took my time today. I therefore wasn't ready when they opened the road at 8:30. #-o That meant traffic, and I hit a wall of stopped cars at the big hill on Wasatch near BCC. Finally cresting the hill, I took a right on Bengal, then a left, then a right on Creek Rd to Danish Rd, which put me just south of the La Caille sign. I continued south on Wasatch, banging a left on 9400 S which put me in stop-and-go again on the southern approach to LCC, but I gained about a mile and a half on the backup. It was 9:45 by the time I got to Alta.

That was all well and good, but my maneuvering meant that I was the first one of the posse to arrive. #-o I did bump into Salida in the parking lot, but I waited for the others as he went direct to lift. I never saw him again all day.

Sharon and her friend Pam are in town, of course. We were joined by Marc_C, Amy, Tele Jon, Sam and Pat. We hit Wildcat, finding tracked loose snow through Punch Bowl and down to Bridge Shot. The snow was very, very wet and heavy (snow line ~6,000 feet) -- untracked skied very well, but tracked up snow was pushed into dense little piles that really threw you off balance, especially because they couldn't be seen in fog and heavy snow. We got separated from Marc_C after the first run and we never caught up with him for the rest of the day.

We found the untracked that we were looking for on the second run off Wildcat by being a bit creative. After waiting for what seemed like forever for the bus to arrive, however, we hoofed it back to Alta through Powder Ridge.

By the time we got back Supreme opened, so we headed directly over there and scored exceptional untracked snow in Catherine's Area. Ready to do it again, we got back to Supreme to find it running on auxiliary diesel power and not loading. #-o

Plan B took us out to North Rustler, which also delivered in spades -- soft piles of fluffy snow just begged to be taken at speed. The temperature was dropping, and the snowfall getting lighter while not lessening even the slightest bit in intensity. En route to North Rustler, however, we noticed that Collins wasn't spinning, ladders were being used in the top station and folks were stuck sitting on the lift.

With both Collins and Supreme down, it seemed like the right time for lunch at GMD. Marc_C called, and he was already heading down the canyon. When Collins hadn't resumed operating by 2:45, though, and with the canyon road scheduled for close for control work at 3, I decided to make a hasty exit and beat the closure. So did Jon.

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They closed the road, however, at 2:55 #-o , so I spent the next hour sitting in my truck in stopped traffic on the Bypass Road, ironically right next to our usual bus stop. My normal 25-minute commute took 2.5 hours tonight to get home. ](*,) The snow level has now reached the Valley floor, proof positive that things are cooling down and the snow is drying out. I shoveled about three inches of the heaviest, wettest slush imaginable when I reached my driveway. The road will close again tonight from 12:15 a.m. to 9 a.m.

Tomorrow's going to be huge, so huge that I'm thinking about taking a day off of work.
 
Admin":m3wsnqjs said:
The snow level has now reached the Valley floor, proof positive that things are cooling down and the snow is drying out. I shoveled about three inches of the heaviest, wettest slush imaginable when I reached my driveway.

I was surprised that our ride down BCC was snow the whole way, and by the time we hit the highway to the airport it was dumping. The snowflakes had to be an inch plus across.
 
Admin":176m3ie1 said:
Day 28: What can go wrong, will go wrong.

The road wasn't scheduled to open until 10 am this morning, so I took my time today. I therefore wasn't ready when they opened the road at 8:30. #-o ,

you should have called me as the 7am avi forecast announced the road opening at 8:30. i check the forecast everyday at about 7am just out of pure curiosity as it's a good way to follow snow conditions from day to day and when and where the birds have flown and are flying and they do announce road closures and such. you should check it out sometime so as to be better prepared. coulda gone to brighton where there was no canyon line and it was ski on, no lines all day. have fun tomorrow and let me know if ya need any info O:)
rog
 
bummer dude,

Pam, Sam, Pat and I skied 3 more super runs after lunch while Amy got her boot worked on.

The snow was really dumping and we found tons of fresh snow in Fred's trees, East Greeley and then off the High T. It was all fantastic, but the best of those 3 runs was Sam's pick of the East Greeley. Boy was that deep.

I had been choking on snow throughout most of the day. It's really piling up and sometimes snowing very heavily.

We got back to our car around 5 and found that someone stole our windshielf wiper. We took the one off the back and put it on the front for a temporary fix. Driving without wipers would have been insane in this snowstorm.

This storm cycle is forecasted to dump up to 40" of snow in various locales in the Wasatch. I am willing to bet that Little Cottonwood Canyon is one of those locales.

Catherine's run before lunch was the pick of the day and required the most effort to get there, but boy was that worth it. We did a lot of schlepping around today to get to the goods. Alta is like that and really wears me out. I am quite whooped and hardly have the energy to deal with dinner.

Tomorrow is another powder day that we'll spend schlepping around with Skidog at Alta.
 
icelanticskier":tae0jjgq said:
you should check it out sometime so as to be better prepared.

I read it every day without fail. My eyes skimmed over the "Special Announcement" section that contained that morsel of info.
 
I know this may sound insane..but outside of the traffic issues....to me that sounds like a really cool day. Nice report.

Sharon you are going to have a ton of fun.

Oh yea WTF is up with stealing a wiper? Is that a normal occurrence? That's like stealin a guys horse out west. Penalty is death.
 
So much teeth gnashing from hundreds of miles away in L.A.! :roll:
Read socal's report. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that icelantic and I made the right call for today, albeit from a distance unable to take advantage. I would add that this call applies particularly to a vacationing skier like Sharon, who is there for a week and can hit LCC tomorrow when both the road and crowds will have moderated a bit. So why ](*,) when there's a convenient no-pressure alternative?
 
Tony Crocker":1u9hz9yu said:
So why ](*,) when there's a convenient no-pressure alternative?
I suspect it's the old "my posse will be at Alta" rap.

Hey, this laptop QBing from across the country is fun!
 
Tony Crocker":4r0j6rzn said:
So much teeth gnashing from hundreds of miles away in L.A.! :roll:
Read socal's report. There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that icelantic and I made the right call for today, albeit from a distance unable to take advantage.

I have no regrets whatsoever over my decision today. We skied exceptional snow. Apparently your crystal ball lets you see mechanical lift failures in advance, too? :roll:
 
ya, for not living there or knowing the conditions on a daily basis, it's not too hard to figure out what the ideal pow skiing experience will be and where, although, i did live there. admin makes his choices based on social situations and terrain he knows well. and had a few of those things not had gone wrong, his day could have been as good as any other. he should have no problem making up for today, tomorrow. solitude would be my choice tomorrow based on road closure possibilities and lesser crowds, and the fact that i'm much more knowledgeable of the untracked flow of the place. i'll be enjoying packed powder tomorrow at cannon while yer all deep in it.
have fun, i'll be out in early march for 10-14 days most likely.
rog
 
I suspect jamesdeluxe is right.

Apparently your crystal ball lets you see mechanical lift failures in advance, too?
No, but it did not take a rocket scientist to see significant probability of road issues. Once on the mountain, I do realize admin believes he can score fresh at Alta no matter how many people are there. While he has the experience to back that up, I think this situation is a more clear-cut call for a visiting skier such as Sharon or myself.

My personal experience at Solitude on President's Day 2007 demonstrates icelantic's oft-stated view. I had only been to Solitude 5 times before, and not since 1998 or on a powder day. A close analogy to Sharon's situation. But no particular local knowledge was necessary to score fresh tracks all day. 23K, after a late bus arrival at 10:15AM.

Tomorrow I would choose one of the LCC areas unless there is a road problem.
 
Tony Crocker":346nq9hk said:
Once on the mountain, I do realize admin believes he can score fresh at Alta no matter how many people are there. While he has the experience to back that up, I think this situation is a more clear-cut call for a visiting skier such as Sharon or myself.

Did you bother to read who was following me today? Sharon. Just like you found good snow by following us last Monday despite the persistent inversion, we scored today, too, big time -- however few runs we made. Sounds to me like Sharon had as much as she could handle, so what does it matter?

Did you ever own a season pass in your life? No, I didn't think so. Then stop trying to figure out why people do what they do. I'm blessed by the luxury of being able to go pretty much anywhere I want. My regular ski companions have no such luxury. And despite the "no friends on a powder day" credo, I place an inordinately high value on spending good times with my friends. Did you notice how I spent time elsewhere while you were here?

Tony Crocker":346nq9hk said:
My personal experience at Solitude on President's Day 2007 demonstrates icelantic's oft-stated view. I had only been to Solitude 5 times before, and not since 1998 or on a powder day. A close analogy to Sharon's situation. But no particular local knowledge was necessary to score fresh tracks all day. 23K, after a late bus arrival at 10:15AM.

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. You talk about how quality terrain is more important than snow, blah, blah, blah. Well, as much as I love Solitude I also am painfully aware of how it's cursed by frighteningly poor topography.

Ironically, while having lunch I bumped into a communications executive from another Utah ski area. "I'm so glad to be here today!" this person told me. It was this person's day off, and they chose to spend it at Alta.

You're trying to back seat QB from 600 miles away. I have absolutely no regrets for my choice, and have fond memories of my day today. And I was actually there.
 
So much fun up there today. Firsts down the nipple past eagles nest, eddies trees, and then key hole. One run on peruvian, then a half dozen down tiger tail. So insanely deep by the end of the day. Bringing the snorkel up to Alta for the morning.
 
Admin":o1aurih7 said:
And despite the "no friends on a powder day" credo, I place an inordinately high value on spending good times with my friends.
I WIN!! :bow:

For my next trick, I'll reveal which lunchtime special you should have bought at the Collins Grill.
 
I posted a reply but I guess it got lost. Basically, in LCC/BCC you couldn't have gone wrong. And let's be honest, Solitude isn't exactly the best place to spend a full day bell to bell. My TR was full of we hit this 2x, that 3x..... Point being our situation was determined by our flight schedule and also, a bit by the fact that it's been a while since there's been that much snow and all the hounds go to Alta (for good reason).

Now Snowbasin, that's a different story for a visitor, plenty of terrain, great lifts, no crowds, and great facitlities (aka bathrooms :) ). 100% we would have been there if the snow level wasn't so high during the storm. Love solitude, but the last two times I've been there have been short days.
 
Admin is quite a gracious host. it is a pleasure to have him lead us around the mountain. Too bad he left at 3pm and sat in his car while his guests continued to ski 3 more runs.

When the Collins lift went down, it was a perfect time for lunch. After lunch the lift had been repaired and took us up for 3 more runs.

He was the only one who had such issue in the course of events. As it turned out, the guys bailed early and the girls skied until the very end enjoying every minute.

Even the slow start to the day plus the hike from the road back to Alta, mostly uphill that consume most of our morning, there was no reason to rush around looking for fresh snow, it was everywhere.
 
Sharon":27j6emp3 said:
Admin is quite a gracious host.

Except perhaps when I deliberately snake your line! :lol:

Once through the crux in North Rustler, it opens up into a series of steep and relatively narrow slots. Sharon figured "it must be even better over there" and kept schlepping over one slot further as I stood and watched. Once she'd found her bounty, right as she dropped in I knocked off a couple of quick turns and hung a hard left, popping through the trees into her line right in front of her, yelling "Poached!" as I kept going.

Mean, but fun. :twisted:

Sharon":27j6emp3 said:
As it turned out, the guys bailed early and the girls skied until the very end enjoying every minute.

Sam might take issue with that characterization.
 
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