Glen Mtn (Eastern Townships), QC will reopen in 2008-09

Patrick

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Here is the scoop.

After being closed for the last 3 seasons, Glen Mtn is reopening.

Just read this on Zoneski. Christophe (ZS's admin) received a Press Release.

New ownership for the land and hill this Spring. The new owner was talking at the time of giving it a try to restart the ski area. This isn't a huge place, even by Eastern standards, but it's a good family area with a 300 meters vertical with no snowmaking.

I coldn't find anything in English, but here is what is posted on ZS.

Publié par: Christophe le 22 Jun 2007
Le centre de ski rouvrira pour la saison 2008-2009 avec un nouveau concept de Club de Ski dont les détails seront disponibles très prochainement. Les travaux sur les pistes et sur les améliorations générales ont déjà débuté et un nouveau remonte-pentes sera installé...

Here is a quick translation.

Reopening in 2008-09.
New concept of Ski Club with further details coming soon.
Works on trails and overall improvements have already started.
A new lift will be installed.

Zoneski discussion (in French) - the first post is the Press Release:

http://forums.zoneski.com/index.php?showtopic=7825
 

Patrick

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avec un nouveau concept de Club de Ski dont les détails seront disponibles très prochainement.

New concept of Ski Club with further details coming soon.

This is the part that I'm wondering about. I've learn over the years to be cautious with announcements like these.

Not that this is necessarily negative, but that what been a few rumours on Glen in the last few years which is last operated. One of them was a Private Club, the other, a ski area and housing.

I'll wait and see before passing judgement...the situation is already very complicated with the dynamic between Bromont massive expansions in terrain and housing, Orford's fiasco, Shefford not opening in 2006-7 plus Sutton / Owl's Head fighting not to lose customers to the dirt cheap passes availables at Bromont.
 

Patrick

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Nothing much in the media, expect this French story from La Voix de l'Est.

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/article/20070 ... ACTUALITES

What I feared.

Quick summary:

Private ski club - Members only.
Owners also wants to build "Prestige" housing at the bottom (North side)as well as at the Southwest side of the mountain.

From the new GM, Pat Côté, they want to create a unique ski club. No wide groomers, but skiing is a natural environment (opposite of what Bromont offers).

The ski area also wants to add some Summer activities.

Ski area could have opened this coming season, but they wants to have more time in order to be more successful.

From the newspaper story. Maryo Lamothe, a real estate developper from Montreal's South shore bought the area and land for $2.4 million CDN in March 2007.
 

Admin

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Patrick":1pmudpfb said:
Nothing much in the media

That's why we're around. :wink: Good work, Pat - I've started working on securing more info for a news story.
 

jamesdeluxe

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I wonder if it'll be similar to the hill in southern VT that admin skied a while back (Bear Creek?). I like the idea of closing it off to the public on weekends, but allowing non-members to ski there on weekdays. Does anyone know if that format (semi-private) is sustainable in the East?

Mont Glen was a cool place... I hope they can figure something out that works.

Patrick, I apparently missed the Mont Shefford story on Zoneski... why wasn't it open this season? Lack of snow?
 

Patrick

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jamesdeluxe":2osqhnl2 said:
Mont Glen was a cool place... I hope they can figure something out that works.

Cool for sure. If it wouldn't have been for Glen Mtn, I would have probably never been born. :shock:

jamesdeluxe":2osqhnl2 said:
Patrick, I apparently missed the Mont Shefford story on Zoneski... why wasn't it open this season? Lack of snow?

No, the decision was made prior to the Christmas Holidays.

News and discussion on ZS (In French) - December 17th 2006

http://forums.zoneski.com/index.php?showtopic=6731

There wasn't an official reason given, however I found out from someone that the ski area lift or equipment (I can't remember) had to be fixed to be able to pass a Provincial inspection. I believe the area had already been warn. The work wasn't done over the Summer, so the ski area had no choice but to shutdown until the concerns where addressed. I don't know if they will reopen this season as that is a ski area that I don't know anything about. I know that ZS has done some work with them in the past.
 

jamesdeluxe

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Hard to believe that @Patrick didn't mention this story from last month. A pretty courageous investment for Mr. White given our warming winters.

Here are pix from my January 2004 visit -- the last season before it closed.
 

Tony Crocker

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Peter White has purchased the former ski area for CAD $6,100,000,
From whom? Someone made out like a bandit there. Why is there that much positive value in something requiring essentially start from scratch investment in lifts, snowmaking etc.? Maybe it's private land with alternative use possibilities.

I think Lynn Newcomb tried to sell Mt. Waterman for a something like $2 million and had no takers. AFAIK the Metcalfs stepped in and assumed responsibility for Waterman to prevent it from being dismantled by the Forest Service. I don't think they paid anything up front but have had to pay upkeep and occasional operating costs as essentially a labor of love since 2007.
A pretty courageous investment for Mr. White given our warming winters.
The Townships are far from the most marginal ski region of the East, though elevation range of 1,030-2,060 is a bit on the low side. So it's not necessarily non-viable. But paying $6.1 million up front before making the requisite investments in infrastructure? I'll agree with James that sounds courageous!

As in most cases, it's regional context that matters here. How crowded are Sutton and Orford? I think Bromont has night skiing and is closest to Montreal. Echo and Sheffield are other defunct Townships areas, which implies not the most robust local demand. Owl's Head has similar stats as Mont Glen. How is it doing?

Patrick is the most qualified person to discuss the Montreal local ski market and answer these questions. Don't expect that to be anytime soon as he's in Australia.
 
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New concept of Ski Club with further details coming soon.

This is the part that I'm wondering about. I've learn over the years to be cautious with announcements like these.

Not that this is necessarily negative, but that what been a few rumours on Glen in the last few years which is last operated. One of them was a Private Club, the other, a ski area and housing.

I'll wait and see before passing judgement...the situation is already very complicated with the dynamic between Bromont massive expansions in terrain and housing, Orford's fiasco, Shefford not opening in 2006-7 plus Sutton / Owl's Head fighting not to lose customers to the dirt cheap passes availables at Bromont.
My daughter lives in Montreal (grad student at McGill), is an avid skier, and buys one of those cheap season passes to Bromont. I may drive up this winter for a weekend of skiing with her at Bromont. Is it worth the 4.5 hour drive to ski there (Patrick)?
 

Tony Crocker

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If I were making that drive, I'd be skiing Sutton and Orford, more vertical, steeper and fairly sure more natural snow. A Google Earth view of Bromont shows a lot of ontermediate cut trails flowing in 3 directions (1,200, 1,000 and 800 vertical pods) from its 1,800 foot summit.
 

jamesdeluxe

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If I were making that drive, I'd be skiing Sutton and Orford, more vertical, steeper and fairly sure more natural snow. A Google Earth view of Bromont shows a lot of intermediate cut trails flowing in 3 directions (1,200, 1,000 and 800 vertical pods) from its 1,800 foot summit.
It's been a decade since I last skied Bromont and posted this FTO article (it has a few formatting issues but is still readable); however, as I argue in the piece, it's worth checking out for a day. For the lack of a better comparison, it's a bigger and better (due to all the glades) French-Canadian version of Hunter Mountain. You just have to go there with a specific mindset and avoid peak periods.
 

Tony Crocker

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Nice article above by James, and a good illustration why I'm very glad that FTO Features have been retained. I always thought Saint Sauveur was to Montreal what Big Bear is to L.A., but from James' feature Bromont has competent management on a larger mountain equally convenient to Montrealers. And I have to concede that drive time to Big Bear is 2x what the Montrealers have to either Saint Sauveur or Bromont.

So there's probably more to keep Berkshireskier entertained at Bromont that I thought. But I'd guess it's one of those places that's likely much better midweek.
 
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