late winter!!

Glad you guys are finally getting some of the goodies. It is really frustrating to see snow in all the wrong places. We are down quite a bit from last season here in the Wasatch also, but the skiing has still been good. Visitors from the east wonder what we are whining about as they carve their way down the groomers. We too have had a number of storms pass both north and south of us here in SLC. Fortunately, LCC and BCC have received some decent "morning freshies" to keep things soft.
 
tirolerpeter":162xrs81 said:
We are down quite a bit from last season here in the Wasatch also, but the skiing has still been good. Visitors from the east wonder what we are whining about as they carve their way down the groomers. We too have had a number of storms pass both north and south of us here in SLC. Fortunately, LCC and BCC have received some decent "morning freshies" to keep things soft.
Click to expand...
WRONG FORUM
 
Right forum..we know each other...he feels the pain we are in as ....he's from here..just smartened up...and moved out ...there.
Checking NOAA....snow in the forecast all week..maybe not much but who knows.
 
As far as snow goes, it's been bellow average , but not by a huge amount. The Catskills are on track for a average winter and the Northern Greens are about average too. We have had only one bad rain event . The areas with good snowmaking and the money to use it are skiing great. Personally I'm having a great season , not a lot of powder , but still fun skiing.
 
jasoncapecod":hro6yv0n said:
As far as snow goes, it's been bellow average , but not by a huge amount. The Catskills are on track for a average winter and the Northern Greens are about average too.
Click to expand...
Pretty far from average from where I'm standing...and living.

Ottawa airport's snow accumulation for the season is close to 50% of average.

jasoncapecod":hro6yv0n said:
We have had only one bad rain event . The areas with good snowmaking and the money to use it are skiing great. Personally I'm having a great season , not a lot of powder , but still fun skiing.
Click to expand...

Great season for carving for sure, with so little natural snow, we've been fortunate not to get a serious warmup. Snowpack at my house is about at early April levels.
 
jasoncapecod":1h4co5xl said:
We have had only one bad rain event . The areas with good snowmaking and the money to use it are skiing great.
Click to expand...
I believe this is generally accurate. Often trails counts crash after a big rain event, but Killington was still 71% at the end of January with the big rain just a few days before then. There was also a major rain event right after Christmas over most of the Northeast. The snowfall totals in Northern Vermont are 75-80% of normal, which is quite low for 60% of the way through the season, but all of those areas have been 80+% open continuously since Christmas. In terms of snowfall NH, Maine and upstate NY are closer to normal, as is the Quebec City region because it got snow instead of rain just after Christmas.

I do not track snowfall at regions with just molehills. :-P :stir:

tirolerpeter":1h4co5xl said:
We are down quite a bit from last season here in the Wasatch also
Click to expand...
:-({|= Since I departed Utah Jan. 18 the Wasatch has had more than its fair share of powder.
 
jasoncapecod":zv0et2bt said:
As far as snow goes, it's been bellow average , but not by a huge amount. The Catskills are on track for a average winter
Click to expand...
Belleayre: 87 (average 150)
Plattekill: 83 (average 200+)
Gore: 62 (average 150)
Whiteface 105 (average 168)

I'm :-k about WF's year-to-date number.

For any of them to reach their normal totals, it better snow a lot in the next six weeks.
 
Tony Crocker":3q4nem1k said:
tirolerpeter":3q4nem1k said:
We are down quite a bit from last season here in the Wasatch also
Click to expand...
:-({|= Since I departed Utah Jan. 18 the Wasatch has had more than its fair share of powder.
Click to expand...

James is correct: wrong forum. There are posts from today on this very subject here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8689&p=52469#p52460

However, to answer Peter's comment with hard numbers instead of gut instincts, we've recorded 281.5" this year as of 2/14/10, compared with 376" as of 2/14/09 -- but last year was a 700-inch year, 200" above normal! And our two deepest months are yet to come. As I pointed out in the thread linked above our current settled mid-mountain snow depth is a mere 14" below the 29-year average for February.
 
Tony Crocker":14fd5sqp said:
I do not track snowfall at regions with just molehills. :-P :stir:
Click to expand...
I was talking about the Ottawa Airport...it's pretty flat. You could probably cross-country ski, but I wouldn't recommend it with the planes and stuff. :mrgreen:

For the record, there is a difference between temps and snowfall in the city, Airport and the Gatineau hills. :troll: However as JSpin Waterbury numbers, the Ottawa Airport is a good indicator of the type of Winter we're having.

City of Ottawa numbers so far this season: worst indicator (less snow, more rain, warmer in red - opposite in blue). so if it's warmer, less snow and more rain than average...it's red.

October: trace / avg max +10.4c (rain 106.6mm) - highest temp +17.9c
November: 3.8cm / avg max +8.3c (rain 35.4mm) - highest temp +17.5c
December: 57.4cm / avg max -2.9c (rain 43.0mm) - highest temp +8.2c
January: 32.4cm / avg max -4.1c (rain 47.6mm) - highest temp +8.0c
February*: 8.2cm / avg max -4.7c (no rain) - highest temp +0.6c
*until Feb 17 when we received 5.4 cm:

****

Last season: 2008-2009
October: 11.2cm / avg max +12.8c (rain 80.6mm) - highest temp +22.6c
November: 25.8cm / avg max +5.0c (rain 33.2mm) - highest temp +19.6c
December: 85.2cm / avg max -2.8c (rain 35.2mm) - highest temp +12.2c
January: 80.8cm / avg max -9.2c (no rain) - highest temp -0.6c
February: 15.4cm / avg max -2.1c (rain 37.0mm) - highest temp +7.8c
March: 3.2cm / avg max +3.7c (rain 43.4mm) - highest temp +13.9c
April: 4.4cm / avg max +12.7c (rain 82.0mm) - highest temp +31.0c
May: no snow / avg max +17.9c (rain 84.9mm) - highest temp +29.3c

*********

30 year 1970-2000 Averages

October: 4.1cm / avg max +12.5c (rain 74.9mm)
November: 21.9cm / avg max +4.8c (rain 59.8mm)
December: 57.2cm / avg max -3.0c (rain 31.3mm)
January: 55.2cm / avg max -6.1c (rain 25.2mm)
February: 46.0cm / avg max -4.1c (rain 17.6mm)
March: 39.8cm / avg max +2.2c (rain 36.3mm)
April: 11.0cm / avg max +10.8c (rain 60.5mm)
May: 0.6cm / avg max +19.1c (rain 78.4mm)


Total Average snow per season: 235.8cm
2008-2009: 226cm (90% of that snow was reached by the end of January) - 96% of normal.
2009-2010 (so far): 101.8cm - 43% of season normal / 55% of normal until the end of February.

That is bad. A few of us at work are blaming this guy who bought a snowblower in January 2009. It has barely snow since. :brick:
 
jasoncapecod":k3uv4n6t said:
it's only the 3rd week of Feb...lets see what happens in the next 5 weeks..
Click to expand...
Although I've presented the bloom and doom Ottawa numbers, last year big start OR fast shutdown means that things can change quickly. [-o<
 
How are we comparing to the "old " days...1970's 80's. I remeber when winter meant..snow. Climbing huge snow mounds the plows would build in parking lots...haven't seen much of that in a long time. Now we get an "event" and its the end of the world, especialy in NYC.
 
Harvey44":2v60efzo said:
I'm likin the NEW jasoncapecod. Just oozing with positive juju.
Click to expand...
It's going to take me some time to adjust. I always found it entertaining when Jason would announce, both guns blazing, a "blowtorch warmth" forecast.

Mind you, when he last made that prediction, at the end of last month (thereby incurring the wrath of the high priestess from Greek Peak), he was spot-on.
 
jamesdeluxe":13u54sb7 said:
Harvey44":13u54sb7 said:
I'm likin the NEW jasoncapecod. Just oozing with positive juju.
Click to expand...
It's going to take me some time to adjust. I always found it entertaining when Jason would announce, both guns blazing, a "blowtorch warmth" forecast.

Mind you, when he last made that prediction, at the end of last month (thereby incurring the wrath of the high priestess from Greek Peak), he was spot-on.
Click to expand...

I'm with you on all of that but that last part.

I'm doing this from memory, and would love to see Jason, or somebody post the data. The way I remember it ... the BIG UGLY (Jan 25) was about 36-48 hours. It actually snowed on the 27-28th.

So while it was a debilitating event ...I think James called it a "game changer" ... not sure if 2 days of warmth counts as a full blown blowtorch. In any case it may be debatable.

If you look back at PDQs post, I think what she said was that she didn't see long periods of extended warmth in the forecast.
 
Seems to me that I recall icelanticskier leaving his home in NH a couple of seasons ago to head to WV when similar weather patterns were in control. You tell 'em, itbeme! :wink:

[ Post made via Mobile Device ]
mobile.png
 
So while it was a debilitating event ...I think James called it a "game changer" ... not sure if 2 days of warmth counts as a full blown blowtorch. In any case it may be debatable.
Click to expand...

Hey, was I just thrown under the bus? :shock:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top