Mont Glen beta wanted

[Chromer]

Anyone been to Mt. Glen recently? I'd appreciate any info on the place. I'm going to be spending 3 days in the townships in a week, and while I like Orford and Sutton a lot, I'd like to try a new hill...

My french isn't good enough to follow zoneski discussions, unfortunately...

 

[jamesdeluxe]

Very cool locals hill, but it's been closed now for two seasons... was supposed to reopen for 2005-06, but didn't.

Try Shefford instead. Here's a gaper article I wrote about both of them in 2004:

 

[Chromer]

Very cool locals hill, but it's been closed now for two seasons... was supposed to reopen for 2005-06, but didn't.

Try Shefford instead. Here's a gaper article I wrote about both of them in 2004:

Had no idea they were closed. Any idea how Glen feels about hikers?
Thanks for the tip on Shefford, I think I'll have to give them a try. I'd never heard of them before, but it sounds like my kind of place!

 

[jamesdeluxe]

Had no idea they were closed. Any idea how Glen feels about hikers? Thanks for the tip on Shefford, I think I'll have to give them a try. I'd never heard of them before, but it sounds like my kind of place!

Yeah, Shefford rules, especially if there's fresh snow. This year, they added five new glades... sorry, no English translation, but you'll get the idea.

As for hiking Glen, if I'm not mistaken, some Zoneskieurs have written about earning their turns there... maybe Frankontour can give more details.

 

[Frankontour]

you can check this out, for hiking Glen (report of march 2005)

http://www.zoneski.com/forum/ftopic3182.html

Of course, I'm not sure if they have enough coverage actually to cover the new branches... last year it was looking enough wild in january...

 

[Patrick]

you can check this out, for hiking Glen (report of march 2005)

http://www.zoneski.com/forum/ftopic3182.html

Of course, I'm not sure if they have enough coverage actually to cover the new branches... last year it was looking enough wild in january...

Frank, your link doesn't work even with my login.

I'm not sure what report Frank was going to put up, but here one from my friend and his family who told me about FTO maybe 5 years ago.

It's in French, but it's all about hiking for your turns at Glen.

http://www.zoneski.com/forum/sutra24808 ... ght=#24808

Crap, you need a login to see the mostly pictures of this report from zs... Frank, can you help me?

 

[Admin]

http://babelfish.altavista.com

 

[Patrick]

http://babelfish.altavista.com

Sorry Marc, that's not the help that is needed until you can link up to the report.

Report from this section (Zone Extreme) if I recall are off limit unless the person subscribe to ZS. I could cut & paste the link I have, but it's mostly pictures. I'll try something later.

Frank's link is not good, that report is no longer available.

 

[Frankontour]

whoops... forgot that... I'll try to fix it during my lunch hour with posting the pics directly here. With my admin status, I'm able to see everything and sometimes forget that it's not the same thing for all the people...

 

[Frankontour]

Here is a few pics showing the kind of ski that you can get there (from march 2005) :

Patrick, I think these pics may show better the kind of snow & terrain than the report of Lucky Luke, which was more a "family report", so I finally put a few pics of Bendude...

 

[Patrick]

Patrick, I think these pics may show better the kind of snow & terrain than the report of Lucky Luke, which was more a "family report", so I finally put a few pics of Bendude...

Thanks Frank, does pictures are fine.

When I saw that your link didn't work, I just put a link for a Glen report that I remembered, the one from my ski buddy's family outing.

 

[Anthony]

Mont Glen , Now that brings back great memories from high school ski club days back in the late seventies. Read a book last year on the history of Glen Mountain which explains its history but can't remeber the name . Don't think this place will make a comeback and to make matters worse overall snow totals in Quebec's Eastern Townships are the lowest of all Quebec ski zones and this area also has the highest chance of being rained on due to its location and lack of elevation . If your lucky you could arrive in this area after a snow storm and be able to hike up .

 

[Tony Crocker]

Really? Proximity to Jay should be worth something. I think Patrick has numbers from Sutton running about 60% of Jay, which would be around 200. I'm under the impression that Ste. Anne and Tremblant are no more than 150.

You're right on temperatures. When I was in Northern Vermont during a March heat wave in 2003, it was clear a couple of days later that it had been much cooler in the Quebec City area.

 

[Anthony]

Tony, Jay is the exception as due to its elevation and location it receives tons of snow( There is truth to their adds but watch out for the rain and wind ) while Owl?s Head Quebec a few miles away doesn?t. What the snow statistics don?t tell you is how much rain has fallen in between the snow storms. The rain is the curse of the east. In Quebec the St Lawrence River valley system is the dividing line. Less chance of rain north and north east of the river than south of the river. The Quebec shield country probably has the coldest eastern ski area temperatures so less chance of rain which means that the snow that falls can remain as packed powder or hard pack longer and not be turned into frozen granular .

 

[jamesdeluxe]

this area also has the highest chance of being rained on due to its location and lack of elevation.

Heh, the day I was there two years ago, the high temp was 4F/-15C

 

[Frankontour]

Snowfalls for Mt Glen : (according to http://www.quebecskisurf.com)

2003-04 : 462cm (182")
2002-03 : 307cm (121")
2001-02 : 380cm (150")
2000-01 : 515cm (203")

The mountain top was around 2000'... which is about the base of the mountain at Jay Peak. There is no big peaks in this area neither, so it wasn't the snowiest place... and rain is a major problem in the townships... so imagine for this ski area without snowmaking and without super appropriate grooming machines...

 

[Patrick]

Mont Glen , Now that brings back great memories from high school ski club days back in the late seventies.

Memories... :roll: I went back to Glen in 2001, the previous time was probably when I was 5 or 6 in 1970-71. The places had the same feel to it. My dad was a ski instructor at Glen in the first years of the ski area in the early 60s. He had left the Laurentians to explore the potential in the Eastern Township (I presume).

Read a book last year on the history of Glen Mountain which explains its history but can't remeber the name.

Out Of Bounds: The Glen Mountain Ski Story by Brian Eddington. A very good read with many stories.

http://www.aelaq.org/mrb/article.php?is ... =358&cat=4

Don't think this place will make a comeback and to make matters worse overall snow totals in Quebec's Eastern Townships are the lowest of all Quebec ski zones and this area also has the highest chance of being rained on due to its location and lack of elevation . If your lucky you could arrive in this area after a snow storm and be able to hike up .

Really? Proximity to Jay should be worth something. I think Patrick has numbers from Sutton running about 60% of Jay, which would be around 200. I'm under the impression that Ste. Anne and Tremblant are no more than 150.

Snow Fall totals in the Appalachians (Eastern Townships) in general are, I believe, greater than the Laurentians and Quebec City, however I believe what Anthony means is more related to snow retention. Precipitations in the Townships in last 20 years have been increasingly more of a mixted nature. Ste. Anne is a few degrees colder like Tremblant and the little snow they received compared with the Townships last longer. However if you're looking for the big storms totals, but don't go to Trembalnt or Ste. Anne.

Snow accumulations are least important in Quebec than in the West. Most areas are covered in snowmaking and snow precipitation sometimes have little to do with what is skiable. On this matter, Glen didn't have any snowmaking, so it lived on mother nature every breath. The mountain did have snowmaking for a year or two, but sold it to some other ski area because they needed the cash. The ski area has had a history of disputes on ownership almost for day 1. Competition started from Day 1 also. Many ski areas neighbouring Glen open the same year or close like Sutton, Echo (lost now), Owl's Head and Bromont.

I don't if many people know that Glen Mtn owned Norquay in Banff in the late 80s or early 90s. :shock:

Glen is a great small mountain, I wouldn't necessarily say that they will never open again. People in the community nearby are fairly conservative about changes and powerfull. Many big and rich families have a residence in Knowlton including the current Prime Minister of Canada, I believe.

 

[Chromer]

Really? Proximity to Jay should be worth something. I think Patrick has numbers from Sutton running about 60% of Jay, which would be around 200. I'm under the impression that Ste. Anne and Tremblant are no more than 150.

Snow Fall totals in the Appalachians (Eastern Townships) in general are, I believe, greater than the Laurentians and Quebec City, however I believe what Anthony means is more related to snow retention. Precipitations in the Townships in last 20 years have been increasingly more of a mixted nature. Ste. Anne is a few degrees colder like Tremblant and the little snow they received compared with the Townships last longer. However if you're looking for the big storms totals, but go to Trembalnt or Ste. Anne.

IIRC, Le Massif receives something around 150-200% of what Ste. Anne receives. That said, I always seem to hit it after a thaw-freeze cycle. Then again, I seem to hit everywhere just after a thaw-freeze, no matter where I go. Hell, I've even been to Edouard just after a rain storm. In February no less...

 

[Patrick]

Really? Proximity to Jay should be worth something. I think Patrick has numbers from Sutton running about 60% of Jay, which would be around 200. I'm under the impression that Ste. Anne and Tremblant are no more than 150.

Snow Fall totals in the Appalachians (Eastern Townships) in general are, I believe, greater than the Laurentians and Quebec City, however I believe what Anthony means is more related to snow retention. Precipitations in the Townships in last 20 years have been increasingly more of a mixted nature. Ste. Anne is a few degrees colder like Tremblant and the little snow they received compared with the Townships last longer. However if you're looking for the big storms totals, but DON'T go to Trembalnt or Ste. Anne.

IIRC, Le Massif receives something around 150-200% of what Ste. Anne receives.

I forgot the DON'T...

Le Massif isn't part of the Quebec City region. The Charlevoix mountain formation with is similar in origin to the Adirondack, sorry I can't remember what's it call. Edouard would be part of that formation I believe.

 

[Tony Crocker]

I was told by Leslie Anthony that since Le Massif overlooks the sea level (and thus unfrozen) Gulf of St Lawrence it gets "lake effect" from it, thus much more snow than Ste. Anne. I don't know whether the same would apply to Edouard and Valinouet.