Ski Area Count 2023 Update

Never bothered to count my list before. Only skied in the USA so far. I started skiing more regularly outside the southeast in 2010. I do ski safaris to satisfy my curiosity about a given region by sampling mountains, large and small. Skied in the northeast when my daughter was in school in Lake Placid or Boston 2013-19. Was curious enough to drive up to Michigan from North Carolina last season to experience midwest skiing using Ikon and Indy.

* - 1 day only

SOUTHEAST (starting 2004) - 10
Sugar
Beech
Cataloochee
Wintergreen
Massanutten (home mountain since 2004-05, on Indy)
Bryce
Snowshoe
Winterplace
Timberline (mostly after Perfect family took ownership)
Canaan Valley

MID-ATLANTIC or CATSKILLS (starting 2013) - 9
Blue Knob (EpicSki/DCSki gatherings 2013, 2016)
Elk
Whitetail
Roundup
Montage
Plattekill
Belleayre
* Hunter
* Windham

MIDWEST (Jan 2024) - 4
Caberfae
Nob's Nob
The Highlands
Boyne Mountain

NORTHEAST - NY, VT, QUE (2013-19) - 12
Whiteface
* St. Sauveur
* Tremblant
Gore
Stowe
* Smuggler's Notch
* Pico
* Sugarbush
* Mad River Glen
Killington
* Stratton
* West Mountain

NORTHEAST - MA, NH, ME (mostly 2017-19) - 13
Mount Sunapee
Loon
Wildcat
Sunday River
Wachusett
Jiminy Peak
Berkshire East
Tenney Mountain
* Attitash
* Bretton Woods
* Cannon
Waterville Valley
* Catamount

WEST - UTAH - 9
Alta (Mar 1970, *Jan 1982, Feb 1994, regularly starting 2008)
Snowbird
Brighton
Solitude
* Sundance
* Park City
Deer Valley
Snowbasin
Powder Mountain

WEST - COLORADO (mostly 2015 or later) - 18
Steamboat (4 days in 1995, 3 days in Feb 2020)
* Howelsen Hill
Arapahoe Basin
Snowmass
Aspen Mtn
Aspen Highlands
* Buttermilk
Telluride
Copper
* Monarch
Wolf Creek (starting 2021, annual Dec trips 2022-24)
* Loveland
Winter Park/Mary Jane
Vail (Dec 2023)
* Beaver Creek (Dec 2023)
* Keystone (Mar 2024)
* Breck (Mar 2024)
Crested Butte (Mar 2024)

WEST - MT, WY, ID, NM - 8
Bridger
Big Sky/Moonlight Basin
Grand Targhee
Jackson Hole
Sun Valley
* Santa Fe
Taos Ski Valley

WEST COAST - 11
Heavenly (Mar 2000)
* Kirkwood (Mar 2000)
Homewood
Alpine Meadows (Mar 2010)
* Sugar Bowl (Mar 2010)
Squaw Valley (Mar 2010; May 2018)
Northstar
Mt. Rose
Bachelor (May 2018)
* Mt. Hood Meadows (May 2018)
Mammoth (May 2018)
Added to Idaho over the last couple weeks. Also a day at Brian Head, UT.

WEST - MT, WY, ID, NM - 10
Bridger
Big Sky/Moonlight Basin (skied separately one trip before merged)
Grand Targhee
Jackson Hole
Sun Valley
Tamarack
Brundage
* Bogus Basin

* Santa Fe
Taos Ski Valley
 
the 2-3 weeks every summer of hot/humid in the northeast
:rotfl::bs: More like 2-3 months in NJ, though I’m sure less in New England. And if you look up heat discomfort index, that 95F in the Arizona desert is the same as 85F at 65% humidity (routine on the East Coast) or 83F at 80% (not uncommon).
 
Updated through June 2025:


Region

ChrisC
TonyC
James
Patrick
Liz
Lonnie
EMSC
JimK
MarzNC
Eastern Canada
4
4
18
74
4
0
0
2
2
US Northeast (NY+New England)
67
8
28
31
23
1
35
29
27
US Atlantic+Southeast+Midwest
25
1
7
3
3
0
13
16
19
US Northwest
18
16
2
4
7
30
2
1
2
US Southwest
24
28
0
4
18
34
9
9
9
Colorado
23
22
12
2
20
27
26
15
18
Utah
10
14
9
2
12
15
11
10
10
Other US Rockies
23
32
13
6
25
50
7
8
11
Western Canada
23
39
3
22
20
26
10
6
0
Austria
6
16
33
2
14
0
0
5
0
France
28
25
33
16
26
0
9
0
0
Italy
17
16
1
3
16
0
0
0
0
Switzerland
28
25
48
4
20
0
0
0
0
Other Europe
0
4
3
1
4
0
0
0
0
Asia
5
14
0
0
11
0
0
0
0
Southern Hemisphere
7
26
0
28
10
0
0
0
0
Total
308
290
210
204
233
183
122
101
98

Patrick added 4 areas in winter 2024 and SNØ Oslo earlier this month. I expect he will add Galdhøppigen while he is still in Norway in July. I do not know if he added anything during winter 2024-25. ChrisC revised per post #109 below.
 
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:rotfl::bs: More like 2-3 months in NJ, though I’m sure less in New England. And if you look up heat discomfort index, that 95F in the Arizona desert is the same as 85F at 65% humidity (routine on the East Coast) or 83F at 80% (not uncommon).
I've lived in New England most of my life; I would say that in the "old days - the 60's and 70's and possibly the 80's too), we used to have, maybe 5 to 15 days of hot, humid weather (ambient temperatures over 90 degrees with dew points above 70); but it seem like in the recent decades (last 15 to 20 years or so), we now get anywhere from 10 to 25 days a Summer with the hot, humid days. I remember, again in the old days, people would say that you didn't need central A/C in your house (and very few houses in New England had it, even newer, more expensive houses); now, almost everyone building new houses have central A/C built in and even people with older houses have retrofitted them with either central A/C or mini-splits. It's become almost a necessity, if you want relative comfort during the Summer months.
 
Yeah, I live near DC. Last two weeks I've often been doing a one hour morning bike ride followed by an hour or two of yard work. It's like I joined an expensive health club and get to spend several hours per day exercising in the steam room :-)
 
Yea, at least in New England, I'd stand by my estimate of 10 to 25 hot, humid days, as a rough estimate.
28.7 days is the average number of muggy days in Springfield, MA (guessing that's a good surrogate for berkshireskier's location) per Weatherspark, which has a graph and average number of muggy days per month listed below it.
2-3 weeks of hot/humid every summer is accurate.
It's accurate for Burlington, VT, 16.9 days. :icon-lol:

But NYC averages 46.0 muggy days and Trenton, NJ 48.2 days. So, I overestimated by about as many days as James underestimated.
It's like I joined an expensive health club and get to spend several hours per day exercising in the steam room
D.C averages 67.6 muggy days.

My 2020 summer abode near Clearwater, FL averages 215.2 muggy days, and even 4 days in January!
 
New Additions over the last 12 months

Europe - Trip #1 (Switzerland, Italy)
  • Engelberg - Brunni - .5 day
  • Zinal - .5 day
  • Grimmentz - .5 day
  • Courmayeur - Skyway Monte Bianco - 1 day *1 Guided day
  • Crevacol - 1 day
Europe - Trip #2 (Italy, France)
  • Via Lattea - Claviere - .25 day
  • Via Lattea - Montgenevre - .5 day
  • Pila - 1 day

South America (Argentina)
  • Las Lenas - 8 days *1 Guided day
  • Bariloche - Cerro Catedral - 2 days
  • Bariloche - Cerro Bayo - 1 day
 
28.7 days is the average number of muggy days in Springfield, MA (guessing that's a good surrogate for berkshireskier's location) per Weatherspark, which has a graph and average number of muggy days per month listed below it.

It's accurate for Burlington, VT, 16.9 days. :icon-lol:

But NYC averages 46.0 muggy days and Trenton, NJ 48.2 days. So, I overestimated by about as many days as James underestimated.

D.C averages 67.6 muggy days.

My 2020 summer abode near Clearwater, FL averages 215.2 muggy days, and even 4 days in January!
Thanks, Tony, for that info about Springfield. Yea, I live about 50 miles west of Springfield and but at a higher elevation (Springfield is 70' above sea level and I'm at about 900' above sea level); we're probably slightly cooler than Springfield. What is the definition of "muggy" that you are using? In my mind, days where the temps are above 90 degrees and the humidity dewpoint is above 70 would be classified as "muggy" or "hot and humid" (although an 88 degree day with high humidity can also be very unpleasant).
 
What is the definition of "muggy" that you are using?
Weatherspark does not define it explicitly. But we have covered some of this ground before.
apparent-temp_vs_air-temp_and_humidity-png.41226

There seems consensus agreement that 35C/95F is the point at which desert heat gets into the "pizza oven" territory. The chart above is where I derive the info:
And if you look up heat discomfort index, that 95F in the Arizona desert is the same as 85F at 65% humidity (routine on the East Coast) or 83F at 80% (not uncommon).
Here's another chart bringing dewpoint into the picture.
TempDewpointHumidity.jpg

In my mind, days where the temps are above 90 degrees and the humidity dewpoint is above 70
That's borderline "very uncomfortable" in the second chart and heat index 97F in the first one.

So we accept that summer 85F on the East Coast is comparably uncomfortable as 95F in Phoenix/Vegas? That's the average high temperature in NY/NJ in July/August and Weatherspark classifies about half the days in those months as "muggy" so to me that implies that the "muggy" definition is close to that 95 heat index benchmark.

now, almost everyone building new houses have central A/C built in and even people with older houses have retrofitted them with either central A/C or mini-splits. It's become almost a necessity, if you want relative comfort during the Summer months.
This is another red flag on humidity for me. The A/C in my house has been on one day for about 3 hours so far this year. Opening windows at night and closing them during the day is very effective when the nights cool off significantly, and those average low temps 68/69 in NY/NJ are marginal in that regard. July-September here I'd guess we use the A/C 1/4 to 1/3 of days and only for 3-6 hours a day. A/C needs to run all night maybe 5 days a year max.
 
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the point at which desert heat gets into the "pizza oven" territory
In the face of ongoing anti-East Coast sentiment, I''ll happily trade a few weeks of unpleasant heat and humidity against six months of the year during which there's a significant and growing danger that a large portion of my city will burn down. You can have it.
 
I'm OK with westerners throwing EC humidity and bugs under the bus. The lobbying for a pipeline from the Great Lakes or anyplace in the east to make life in the desert possible, not OK with that. There is a reason big cities are on rivers.

On another subject, should we remove "2023" from the title of this thread?
 
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