With $100k annual travel budget...

In the Northeast we have a similar scenario ... On a typical summer day the temps at the beach might rise to the mid 80's/30c..then around 2 ish the sea breeze turns on..temp will drop back into the low or mid 70's... this cooling breeze only penetrates 10 or so miles inland.
Average July-September high temps at SoCal beaches are 25C/77F. The cooling breeze is more forceful here because:
1) Temperature zone weather tends to move west to east.
2) It's coming off colder water.
That's why we get our cooling 20+ miles inland and don't need the A/C that much. But in some places like much of the San Fernando Valley the cooling is blocked by mountains.
 
I am always amused at the people who show up here expecting a nice beach day in May and June, when the typical weather is 65 and cloudy with a 10-15 mph onshore breeze.
 
What makes it tolerable at Liz’ place is the 5 minute drive or 15 minute walk to the beach. Inland Florida would be a masochistic place to live yet the newly retired keep pouring in there.
FL is tough. Need to be far enough inland to avoid hurricane storm surge, but close enough for cool beach breeze that only goes a couple miles inland. Makes me wonder what the heck Walt Disney was thinking putting the park in Orlando.
 
For a bunch of different reasons I’ve found the original post in this thread to be difficult to answer. Actually, it’s been easier to figure out what I would not want.

With unlimited time off, I see some appeal in extended stays at three or so locations. However, my wife and I appreciate, enjoy, and depend upon our friendships and community too much to want to essentially drop out of both for much of the year.

Even though the question is framed to provoke a fantasy response, I’m not confident we’d know what to do with a $100k annual travel budget. In our international travels, both my wife and I have generally preferred somewhat off-the-beaten-path, modest Airbnb or VRBO rentals, often in neighborhoods, to hotels. We also both prefer a mix of meals that leans more heavily into self-catering and street food than towards fine dining. Both often afford more contact with the local culture. In our 20s and early thirties from the late 80s to the mid-90s, mostly separately, we both did a fair amount of seriously shoestring-budget travel in developing countries (South America for her - Kenya, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Turkey, and Eastern Europe for me – pre-Chavez Venezuela and some backwaters of the Caribbean together). We’re too old for that kind of travel now, but we both generally enjoy budget-ish travel because we find it's generally a bit less insular. For some of the same reasons, neither my wife nor I (with the exception of cat skiing, I guess) are likely to enjoy most all-inclusive, cruise, or extended-tour scenarios.

Funny to say on FTO, but even indulging in fantasy, I’m not sure I’d spend a huge amount of time skiing every year if I had a larger budget and a lot more time off. I’m really getting to the point that I can’t stand not just the cost, but the hassle factor, of large NA resorts. In other words, even if I had enough time off to make the economics of a multipass work for us, I don’t have much interest in dealing with the crowds and hassles the multipasses have brought to large resorts. In 2024-25 I added four new resorts to my modest list: Silver, Mt. Spokane, 49 Degrees North, and Fernie. Skied all with reasonably good packed-powder conditions, but no recent fresh snow. Honestly, overall, I enjoyed our days at the first three more than my two days at Fernie. I see both myself and us doing more skiing at the mom-and-pop and midsized resorts of the Northern Rockies in the coming years. Japan would certainly be attractive in a fantasy scenario in which I had a lot more time off. With more time off, I also feel like we should ski Europe at least once, but at least right now, I know that the need to hire a guide to safely get off piste would drive me absolutely insane. There might be a bit more cat skiing in my future at some point, but even with a fantasy budget, I would probably take a year or two off from that at this point. If I ever heli-ski, it will have to work out spur of the moment; my psychology will not accommodate down days for weather.

So what would I want to do? Well, our daughter took a trip last summer, when she was 18, that I’m still kind of envious of. She and 6 other young people ages 18-23 got driven over four days with all their gear and provisions to Yellow Knife, NWT where they took a chartered de Havilland Otter floatplane 250 miles east and deep into the bush (140+ miles to the nearest road!) to Lynx Lake, near the Nunavut border. Then, over 38 days, they paddled and portaged about 600 miles down the Thelon River (a mix of swifts, runnable rapids, unrunnable rapids, and huge lakes mostly north of tree line) to the Inuit town of Baker Lake, Nunavut. From there, they caught a commercial flight to Winnipeg, connecting though Rankin Inset on Hudson Bay. (She’d been invited to go on the trip at end of the summer of 2022 and worked hard during her last two years of high school as a nanny, a lifeguard, and a swim instructor to earn money to cover all of her costs for the trip. Chartered floatplane time ain’t cheap!) As long as we’re talking fantasy, I’d love to take such a trip. Returning to reality, however, I understand it is not likely I will ever have the right combination of time and physical stamina such a trip would require. Under the right set of conditions, we might consider a commercial trip for some shorter, less arduous version. With more time off, I’d also like very much like to find the time to take a few perhaps month-long budget-ish trips around India, Southeast Asia, and South America. I know I would appreciate such trips a little more if spread out over at least 2-3 years.

Like a lot of Americans, time is kind of a big issue for my wife and me. Neither of us are in professions where we can have much realistic expectation of more than about a month off a year at any time before retirement. It’s most likely that at least one of us will need to work until 65 to keep us in health insurance. (That is assuming Medicare eligibility remains at 65 and that Medicare is still funded when we hit 65. Both are questionable assumptions, especially the later.)
 
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our daughter took a trip last summer, when she was 18, that I’m still kind of envious of.
She obviously loved your summer Boundary Waters trips and decided to raise the ante, sort like a resort skier signing up for cat or heli.
Like a lot of Americans, time is kind of a big issue for my wife and me.
Yes, that's why I'm impressed you got some much adventure travel in your 20s and early thirties. My dad wanted that and out of college chose international banking to get that as part of his job. He worked in the Far East 1933-1941 and Latin America 1946-1950.

So like most Americans my frequent travel didn't start until middle age. Before 1997 (age 44) I had been outside the US just 3x: England 1980, New Zealand/Tahiti 1982 and Whistler 1991.
I’m not sure I’d spend a huge amount of time skiing every year if I had a larger budget and a lot more time off.
When working most of us here never think we get enough ski time. But in retirement I do, averaged 65 days/season the first 9 years, looks more like 55 now.
I don’t have much interest in dealing with the crowds and hassles the multipasses have brought to large resorts.
As retirees that can easily be avoided. As James noted, perhaps Liz and I have more tolerance than some people for some of the logistics hassles. But the bottom line is the ski experience. If I don't have to deal with lift lines or excessive skier density I will be lured to the places with the best snow and terrain.
In 2024-25 I added four new resorts to my modest list: Silver, Mt. Spokane, 49 Degrees North, and Fernie. Skied all with reasonably good packed-powder conditions, but no recent fresh snow.... I see both myself and us doing more skiing at the mom-and-pop and midsized resorts of the Northern Rockies in the coming years.
They are driveable for you and that region is where the most interesting mom-and-pop resorts are. Recall that James, ChrisC and I all took pandemic 2021 ski tours there.
Honestly, overall, I enjoyed our days at the first three more than my two days at Fernie.
Still haven't made it to Castle???
It’s most likely that at least one of us will need to work until 65 to keep us in health insurance.
Fortunately Transamerica provided retiree health insurance up to 65 if you retired after 55 with some amount of service time. That also applied to Liz for the 6 years after I turned 65 before she did.
 
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She obviously loved your summer Boundary Waters trips and decided to raise the ante. . .
Yes. By her middle-school years, we were starting to feel a bit confined in the BWCA and graduated to Ontario's Quetico Provincial Park. After a couple of trips there, however, the pandemic kept us south of the border for a couple of years. Our penultimate family trip was to Wabakimi Provincial Park, Ontario in 2022, which is considerably more remote, rugged, and much less visited. She likes skiing well enough, especially with me, but is passionate about wilderness canoeing (and rock climbing). She got her WFR certification in May and is working as a wilderness guide taking teenagers just a couple of years younger than her into the BWCA and Quetico this summer.

They are driveable for you and that region is where the most interesting mom-and-pop resorts are. Recall that James, ChrisC and I all took pandemic 2021 ski tours there.

Agreed. In January my wife and I flew into Spokane, rented a car, and did a 4-day dirtbag road trip spending two days at Silver, and a day each at Mt. Spokane and 49 Degrees North. I reviewed the above-mentioned TRs before booking the flights. We're likely take a similar trip out of Boise this winter.

Still haven't made it to Castle???
No, and, yes, I regret it. Fernie did not put its best foot forward when John and I visited after Mustang in February. RCR's underinvestment in its resorts seems to have reached a crisis point. The White Pass Quad was shut down for unscheduled repairs all of both days we were at Fernie. The Elk Quad was similarly shut down for the last three or so hours of our second day at Fernie. We had purchased our lift tickets well ahead of time, so we were stuck with that second day. Those two days at Fernie were, by far, the most I have ever spent for lift tickets, so it was an extreme bummer to be shut out of so much of Fernie's best terrain by RCR's failure to maintain Fernie's frankly-outdated lift infrastructure. I think we would have been much happier at Castle, but John and I both felt the driving was too much with the time we had. I'll get there someday.


Fortunately Transamerica provided retiree health insurance up to 65 if you retired after 55 with some amount of service time. That also applied to Liz for the 6 years after I turned 65 before she did.

That was a hell-of-a-deal in contemporary America. Great for you!
 
That was a hell-of-a-deal in contemporary America.
Yes it was, particularly considering I hadn't even met Liz when I retired in Sept. 2010.
Those two days at Fernie were, by far, the most I have ever spent for lift tickets, so it was an extreme bummer to be shut out of so much of Fernie's best terrain by RCR's failure to maintain Fernie's frankly-outdated lift infrastructure.
RCR does not have a great management reputation. Polar Peak chair runs extremely erratically, and even when it does the sustained 40+ degree steeps (Papa Bear, Mama Bear, etc.) are rarely open. I feel fortunate I got to ski those in 2013, 2014 and 2017. They have not been open on 9 subsequent ski days in 5 seasons since then. But shutdowns of White Pass and Elk are extremely unlucky.

RCR resorts seem to be adopting US lift ticket practices since they joined the Epic Pass.
 
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I skied 2 days at both Fernie and Castle after Mustang in both 2018 and 2020 and never saw Polar Peak run, one year was due to an avalanche.

I also received health insurance for the nearly 10 years from when I retired until I turned 65. You had to have 15 years of service and retire directly from work - you lost it if you worked somewhere else before reaching 55. Employees hired later in different tiers lost those benefits although Police and Fire probably still get them. When I turned 65, the amount I paid for Medicare was significant (thanks IRMAA) and I got tired of paying it monthly so I started collecting Social Security when I reached full retirement age and they deducted from there.

Of the ski area near Spokane, beside Schweitzer, I've only skied 49 North (with some Arctic freeze on return from my last Mustang trip in 2023). Do you think Silver Mountain and Mt Spokane compare or are worth paying for when Schweitzer is free for me?
 
Of the ski area near Spokane, beside Schweitzer, I've only skied 49 North (with some Artic freeze on return from my last Mustang trip in 2023). Do you think Silver Mountain and Mt Spokane compare or are worth paying for when Schweitzer is free for me?
IMHO, probably not Mt. Spokane. Its terrain is a little less interesting and it gets less snow. OTOH, it has just about 360 degrees of exposure, which might make it useful if the weather is/has been temperamental. We had comp tickets, and might not have stopped there if we had not. The vibe, however, was excellent, and on a (rare?) powder day, some of the trees would clearly be worth skiing.

Silver is probably worth a stop at only $63 (for you) midweek. Here's how Chris C concluded his 2021 report: "Silver Mountain is an excellent inland NW gem with steeps, glades, and low-capacity lifts to preserve snow." I couldn't agree more.

I will add that the locals we talked to in town seem to be holding on to their historical preference for Lookout (also confirmed by mystified transplants to Kellogg that we talked to at Silver), giving me the impression that midweek powder days must be pretty relaxed. I think you might think Silver is still worth a weekday stop without new snow. The grooming on the days we were there was unexpectedly great and extended to many (maybe even most) of the steepest cut trails, which was enjoyable. Understand, however, that it is all fixed-grip lifts, so you're not going to rack up a ton of vertical.
 
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It's terrain is a little less interesting and it gets less snow.
How do we know about less snow? Exposure at Mt. Spokane is worse than Schweitzer or 49 North, so that has to affect snowpack and conditions. Elevation range is exactly the same as 49 North.
Do you think Silver Mountain and Mt Spokane compare or are worth paying for when Schweitzer is free for me?
Sure, these places don't charge Vail/Alterra prices. Even for more reasonably priced places it now pays to check if online prices the day before are cheaper than window though. That said Schweitzer is overall a notch better in terrain extent and quality, and I've personally led a charmed life there with powder.

Silver gets somewhat more snow and has much higher proportion north exposure if you happen to be in the region when it's lacking its usual chronic cloudiness. Lookout gets a lot more snow but fits ChrisC's mountain pass stereotype of mostly intermediate pitch.

All of the places mentioned here top out around 6,000 feet and will get rain from atmospheric river type storms. 2004-05 and 2014-15 were bad at all of them due to too much rain. Red Mt. across the border has the same overall climate but is on a complete different level in terms of expert terrain.
 
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How do we know about less snow?
Sorry, but I'm confused by this question.

tseeb asked me for my opinion about whether it would be worth visiting Mt. Spokane and/or Silver when he can ski Schweitzer for free.

I responded that, for him, it probably would not be worth it to visit Mt. Spokane because, compared to Silver, its terrain is less interesting and (I believe) it gets less snow.

You ask the question above. Fair enough, but then you write:

Silver gets somewhat more snow. . .
I hate to answer a question with a question, but. . .

To more directly answer your question, my assumption is based upon: (1) the snowfall history and depths both resorts were reporting over about six weeks or so before our trip, (2) Mt. Spokane's location in essentially a smallish island range, vs Silver's location just a stone's throw west of Lookout Pass, and (3) our casual conversations with locals at both hills. Not exactly scientific, I know.
 
Mt. Spokane unquestionably gets less snow than Silver. My question is whether it gets less than Schweitzer and 49 Degrees North, probably a little bit due to
(2) Mt. Spokane's location in essentially a smallish island range.
I have ongoing extensive data for Schweitzer and limited datasets from Silver (64 months) and Lookout (50 months). That data was maintained by an avid local, Greg Marsh. I stumbled upon it in 2017, and after a couple of e-mails added it to my site. After an update in 2018, both Greg and his website disappeared in 2019.
 
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To more directly answer your question, my assumption is based upon: (1) the snowfall history and depths both resorts were reporting over about six weeks or so before our trip, (2) Mt. Spokane's location in essentially a smallish island range, vs Silver's location just a stone's throw west of Lookout Pass, and (3) our casual conversations with locals at both hills. Not exactly scientific, I know.

Cost: If you have free skiing at Schweitzer, I would probably always take that over Silver, 49, and Spokane.

Snow: Silver>Schweitzer>49/Spokane. Schweitzer is at the southern end of the Selkirks (?) - which form almost a wall to lift moisture. And they have a snowcat operation off the backside.

Weather: if it's snowy, both 49/Spokane can be fun. In spring or sunny weather, Mt. Spokane could be better since it is a 360-degree cone, so you can follow the sun.

Management: Mt. Spokane is a nonprofit organization located within a state park. They have expanded primarily by buying 2nd hand lifts (like every remaining Riblet). Akin to Discovery Basin.

Location: Mt. Spokane is conveniently close to the Spokane airport, making it easy to add a half-day trip. It's on the way to Sandpoint/Schweitzer. If heading up to Canada (Red/Whitewater), then 49 makes more sense.

On a snowy weekday, you might be able to lap the HSQuad at 49.

Schedule: Check operations. Mt. Spokane has a unique schedule, especially on weekdays. But offers night skiing often.
 
Thanks for all the input and sorry to get thread off-topic. Since I'd like to add at least a couple of new-to-me ski on way to/from Mustang next Feb. I'll try to make use of it. Some others I'm considering are Williamette Pass (not far out of way when going to Bend), Snoqualmie Pass areas (I realize I'd want to watch weather and avoid during or after warmer storm) and Mission Ridge.
 
Cost: If you have free skiing at Schweitzer, I would probably always take that over Silver, 49, and Spokane.

Snow: Silver>Schweitzer>49/Spokane. Schweitzer is at the southern end of the Selkirks (?) - which form almost a wall to lift moisture. And they have a snowcat operation off the backside.
This gets into the balance between the "better area" vs. someplace you have never skied before. Liz and I would not be where we are without assigning significant priority to the latter criterion. Nonetheless I have standards so I'm not likely to seek out places in other regions that have the scale and topography of Big Bear/Mountain High or less.

AFAIK the only places in the western US and Canada that I haven't skied but have clear interest in are probably Alpental, Mt. Spokane and Red Lodge. Maybe Dodge Ridge, Willamette Pass, Mt. Hood Ski Bowl. Location near to clearly superior areas can be a deterrent. It's probably not an accident both tseeb and I have skied Mt. Ashland because it's well situated to break up a 2 day drive from urban California to the Pacific Northwest. And while Ashland has modest vertical it has interesting terrain variety. In the interior NW Liz has not skied Silver either.

At this point in our lives if we want to add new places that have the terrain and scale we like, it's almost a no-brainer to do that in the Alps, as James demonstrates nearly every season.
 
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