How will ski areas fare with 5.00/gallon gas

They are doing it in Japan (solar).

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... gewanted=1

The cultural differences are interesting. The article indicates that honoring Kyoto is a matter of national pride.

Like anything, it takes gov't incentives to get it off the ground, and to get the cost down. At the risk of going out of bounds....why can't energy independence be considered a crucial part of national defense? I'm sure we could still maintain the required level of corruption, no bid contracts and political favors. But just spread it around to some other industries. Maybe next week instead of invading whomever is next on our list, we could...never mind. End of rant. For now.
 
I'm going on an off topic rant again!!!

Alistair Darling, the idiot that ruins(is that i needed?) our economy today declared that tax on gas is only 2p more since the late 90's. Blood boiling I then read this.

Road Tax is going up rediculously. I pay about £180 I think a year and now I reckon it will go up to anything within £300-£500 a year. Its an absolute disgrace that without improving roads and public transport I am yet again going to be shafted. I only have a 1.6 petrol motor!

I'd not mind using busses but I stay roughly 5 miles from my place of work. It takes about 30-40 mins to get home at 4pm some night yet if I wanted a bus I reckon it would take maybe 1 1/2 hours as I'd have to go into the centre of the town and out again to my office.

Anyone want to swap locations??
 
The most efficient AWD vehicle was the Toyota Matrix (30-35mpg), but they stopped making it with the AWD.
.. I was at the Toyota dealer today. Right smack in the middle of the showroom was a 2008 Matrix with AWD
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I may end up buying one of those older AWD Matrix's to replace my Subaru next. They started making the AWD again in 08, but I cannot afford to buy one new and will wait for them to come down in price. I still have a lot of life left in my Subaru, but with fuel prices the way they are going, and with the possibility that my small local ski area may not be able to continue operation due to high costs and lower skier turn-out, I may be forced to drive further to ski. It costs me $100 to drive round trip to the Adks in my Subaru. I'll be lucky if it costs that much in a Matrix this coming winter!!! I'm thinking about taking a second job so that I can afford my ski habit in the face of skyrocketing prices across the board.

In the meantime, I will try to get Pam to come skiing with me next season up north and we'll drive HER Matrix. She has the AWD one from a few years ago. She gets about 30mpg in town (we have a hilly town) and a bit better on the highway. My Subaru gets 25 in town and 27 on the highway.
 
Here's a recent pic from Mammoth:
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we are one Cape Verde depression away from 5.50-6.00 gas..
at this pace the ski operators must be sweating

where is the American consumers breaking point??
 
I paid $4.13 for regular unleaded in Western Mass today. Prices have actually come down a little from the past few weeks. I do think, if gas and heating oil and natural gas prices remain high for the rest of the year, that it is going to adversely affect many ski areas next winter. A lot of people are going to be financially squeezed and will be looking to cut back on discretionary spending. The big destination resorts may do OK, but I think some of the smaller resorts will see a downturn in business, especially if we do not have a good snow winter. I actually feel sorry for ski resort owners - they're in for tough sledding - rising costs and decreasing revenues. I hope I am wrong.
 
I've read that as percent of U.S. personal income, energy prices are now at least as much as 1974-75 or 1990, but not quite yet at the level of 1979-80.
 
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IIRC the Chilean currency was about 500 to the USD. So $1.25 per liter, $4.75 per gallon. Still cheaper than Europe at the time I'll bet.

I don't remember the numbers but in Brazil in 2005 the sugar cane ethanol fuel was about 60% of the price of gasoline. I don't know whether the government subsidized any of that. But by then all new cars produced in Brazil had to be flexible fuel.
 
q":346mmqb9 said:
I'd not mind using busses but I stay roughly 5 miles from my place of work. It takes about 30-40 mins to get home at 4pm some night yet if I wanted a bus I reckon it would take maybe 1 1/2 hours as I'd have to go into the centre of the town and out again to my office.

Anyone want to swap locations??
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This sounds like an American rant. Did they ban bicycles in Scotland? It sounds to me like that's quicker than driving.
 
Tony Crocker":1mhzy145 said:
IIRC the Chilean currency was about 500 to the USD. So $1.25 per liter, $4.75 per gallon. Still cheaper than Europe at the time I'll bet.

I don't remember the numbers but in Brazil in 2005 the sugar cane ethanol fuel was about 60% of the price of gasoline. I don't know whether the government subsidized any of that. But by then all new cars produced in Brazil had to be flexible fuel.
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Yep. Gasoline in Chile is only mildly more expensive than in the US.

I wonder how that Brazilian stuff is with a little bit of Grand Marnier and some fresh squeezed lime juice?
 
Here's my $.01_guess.....
As long as they get their online sales up in the black....they'll be ok, as long as mother nature cooperates........
*I'll probably swap out my Xterra for my Accord(or Prius..?) more than several times...
 
3.59 per gallon in newmarket, nh. and holdin steady. filled up for the 1st time in awhile today as i ride the 140 miles per week total to and from work on my bike to offset the driving i do all winter, not to save money but, to stay in shape and for somethin better to do than sit in my car and pay too much for gas. i even ride in pouring rain storms cuz i'm wet from sweat anyway. more folks should ride to work.
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Wife just paid $2.99 in Nebraska...and here I sit paying $4.12 just two states away. :evil:
 
While we're bragging I've used a little less than 5 tanks since May 1 and that includes 2 trips to the mountains in my wife's civic. I'd ride to work but it's faster to walk. Gas is around $3.85 here in MASHland. (The mash part is not bragging!).
 
nebraska gas prices as of yesterday...2.99 is lower than the futures price

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Conoco in Nebraska Conoco
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jasoncapecod":dh4tt2q6 said:
nebraska gas prices as of yesterday
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Well, somebody's got to get out there and update that because they really did pay $2.99.
 
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